Vaccine Mandates - Not Tyranny  

New2Midlo 52M  
712 posts
9/21/2021 7:01 pm

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Vaccine Mandates - Not Tyranny

Hey you! Yeah, you...turn off Tucker for a moment and listen up. I bet you're singing along with that whiny little hypocritical shithead that vaccine mandates are tyranny and interfere with your freedoms. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you lack access to actual data, only receive Fox and OAN and that you're not willfully ignorant.

The bottom line is that vaccine mandates aren't tyranny, no matter what you hear from the right wing media. Worth mentioning is Fox, OAN, and all the other toxic bullshit factories have vaccination mandates for their employees. If your friend Tucker really believed what he was saying about mandates being tyranny, you'd think he'd be raging against his employer. But he isn't. I wonder why that is?

I like data, so let's move on to the numbers. They're big ones, but I've done my best to simplify them so you'll understand.
There have been six hundred eighty thousand total deaths in the US due to Covid. Of the one hundred sixty plus million who've been fully vaccinated, there have been one thousand four hundred deaths. That number represents less than one percent of those who've been vaccinated. LESS THAN ONE PERCENT!!! Oh, there were over two thousand deaths from Covid, just yesterday; you can guess how many were vaccinated.

The vaccine is effective and has saved thousands of lives; it's also FDA approved, so cross that objection off your list.
I know what you're thinking - it's still tyranny to force people to get vaccinated. You're standing up to be dumb enough to avoid getting jabbed, get the virus, and die in your mobile home. Trust me, if the virus only impacted the willfully ignorant, I'd be fighting alongside you, defending your right to demonstrate natural selection at work. If only it worked that way.

The vaccine is effective against the current variants, but viruses mutate as they're spread around, until they morph into a variant the vaccine can't defend against. This is why you need a flu shot every year; to protect from the latest mutations. Ultimately, the spread by the unvaccinated will allow Covid to mutate into one of those variants that the current vaccine can't fight and we'll be back to square one. Those who remain ignorant and unvaccinated are lengthening the pandemic and making it more difficult to fight.

Even with the current variants, stupid mother fuckers like you are winding up in ICU's hand over fist and are taking beds that are needed for those whose conditions weren't preventable with a fucking shot. There have been dozens of accounts where someone having a major cardiac issue or something equally critical have either wound up dying for lack of a bed or had to be transported several hundred miles away from home, because that's where the closest empty bed was located.

You and those like you have blood on your hands from the deaths you cause every damned day you remain unvaccinated. These deaths are your fault, Fudd.

Do employers really have the right to mandate vaccinations? Damn skippy they do, for two main reasons. First, they pay your fucking health insurance and the costs go through the roof when they have a bunch of dumb fucks get sick from Covid, not to mention lost productivity because your dumb ass isn't working. More importantly, they have a legal obligation to provide their employees with a safe working environment. A bunch of spreaders running around is the opposite of safe. The Federal government is the largest employer in the US and are subject to the same shit as other employers. So is your corner coffee shop, hotel, and every other business you infect by walking into every day.

In summary, neither you nor I have the personal freedom to kill those around us by spreading a deadly virus. Not much different than walking around with an open jar of anthrax.

Finally, the above also applies to mask mandates. Those of you who decry such measures in schools because you know what's best for your are killing them too.

Update - Tonight (9/22) I went to my club to participate in some group long range precision rifle. As one can imagine, a rifle club in Kansas is right wing heaven. I was chatting with a couple other club members and someone else brought up the topic of vaccine mandates. I immediately began to think of soft ways to explain why they were necessary, but never needed them, because the consensus was that they were. One club member thought they were a bit of tyranny, but necessary none the less.
There you have it; a bit more insight on those you'd least expect to be on board.

New2Midlo 52M  
1075 posts
9/21/2021 7:02 pm

Viral infection - not fun.

ibottomutop 67M
62 posts
9/21/2021 11:20 pm

So you enjoy being a lab rat

New2Midlo replies on 9/22/2021 7:46 am:
The Pfizer vaccine is fully approved by the FDA. The lab rats are the unvaccinated human petri dishes perpetuating further mutation of the virus.

Do you like being the real lab rat?

Bourre2020 59M

9/22/2021 1:09 am

I knew that this post would bring out the Reich-wing loonies
As for being a lab rat, get your entitled narcissistic head out of your arse and face reality. Kenneth Copeland HAS NOT blown away Covid. If he had he wouldn't be pulling that stunt again.
Today, in Melbourne, we had fuckwits protesting for the third day. Meanwhile, these caring people were NOT helping out with the earthquake damage in Melbourne. What a bunch of morons.

Countries around the world, but mainly the United States, has gone so anti-science that you'd rather believe a corrupt businessman with no scientific literacy or a bunch of scamangelicals who are only interested in getting money to buy a new private jet rather than anyone who actually knows what's going on.

As for the U.S. being free, look closely. Remember "Dubbya"? He came right out and said that in the "fight against terror" you'll have to sacrifice some liberties. Your phone calls and internet traffic are monitored without court orders, more than they were before Bush Jr. Your medical system sucks, your children are at risk of loonies going on a shooting spree, and your country is heading towards a theocracy. What does that mean? Think of Iran, but being run by Christian extremists. You'll not have this site because it's evil and promotes lustful thoughts. It's the work of Satan! Not what I believe, but this is what will happen.

So, get your heads out of your arses, face reality, wear a fecking mask and GET VACCINATED.

The OP is one of those of you with a brain.

New2Midlo replies on 9/22/2021 7:51 am:
Thank you!

What's truly astonishing is that the right wing has so dug in their science denying heels to the point where the original moron in chief got boo'd at a rally for suggesting everyone get vaccinated. Again, if only the stupidity could simply weed out the morons and leave the rest of us alone.

G000dbuddy 34M  
1676 posts
9/22/2021 3:58 am

Those who remain ignorant and unvaccinated are lengthening the pandemic and making it more difficult to fight.


New2Midlo replies on 9/22/2021 7:53 am:
And the hypocritical right wing media is fueling the fires of ignorance.

lindoboy100 59M  
23969 posts
9/22/2021 7:49 am

I'm still astonished that Tucker gains so much traction over there.......but then you have evangelical preachers who seem to be able to gather 10s of millions and more from their somewhat gullible audiences.

It's the wilfully ignorant I really object to. Those who know better but are happy to hide behind clear lies in the face of such proven fact.

The longer the virus is allowed to proliferate in unprotected populations, the more opportunity it has to mutate, the longer the protections will remain.

Good post McMid, and I see you've attracted the attention of the muppets and the wilfully ignorant.

New2Midlo replies on 9/22/2021 1:26 pm:
Tucker continues to maintain his audience for a few reasons. First, the folks that watch him only consume right wing media, so they're never touched by facts that would prove him to be an idiot. Furthermore, he spouts the same type of xenophobic, racist, sexist garbage that his little followers believe. Finally, his audience is incapable of critical thought; they need someone to tell them what to think.

I'd suggest the willfully ignorant don't know better; they won't consume information that contradicts their own beliefs.

Meanwhile, people are dying because of their stupidity and they post cartoons. Proves they only care about...wait, I was going to say themselves, but they're too stupid to get vaccinated. I'm not sure what they care about...

New2Midlo 52M  
1075 posts
9/22/2021 6:22 pm

Someone needed to be banned because they broke the rules and were spouting the same incorrect right wing stupidity over and over.
I'm not afraid of healthy debate, but this wasn't that.

pagancountrygirl 64F
6466 posts
9/23/2021 8:40 am

Another blogger posted a great meme that pretty well covers it: "You'll eat hotdogs and McChicken, but won't get the vaccine because you don't know what's in it?" Yup...that pretty much covers it.
Plenty of documented cases of people in the hospital who's dying words were something like "Get the vaccine. I wish I had and now it's too late."

Hmmmm....I know I left that wand around here somewhere!

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