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Life in the Vegas Lane #2
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Life in the Vegas Lane #2 Hi again  This is Tallie, and this is my second blog post.I am always curious about the different perspectives of different people on many subjects, but especially on sexuality. I have a question that I would like to ask those who might know the answer(s) from their own perspective. Read on as your time permits, and at your own risk and expense. LOL When I was a little younger before I became a semi-professional entertainer I worked in various clubs, which was mostly when I was in college as a typical starving student. They were mostly clubs of the T&A kind. For a little while I was a T&A waitress, which only means a 13 inch shorty short skirt with a braless, really tight tank top (visualize pointy points and lots of side boob). After that I went live on stage for awhile doing the full meal deal, and after that I discovered I was talented enough to get a job entertaining on the cruise line circuit as a hostess and announcer/entertainer. After that I made a connection and became a semi-pro entertainer with a male partner (after the girl group I was in failed). My partner and I were a singing duo that had some success for awhile, and then I met Mr. Right who became my Mr. Wonderful, and still is five years later. During the early part of my T&A club time I made probably more than my share of the total club money girls were making giving lap dances to men, and in my case also to women. I didn't mind doing that at all. I am a people person, I generally like people, both men and women, and I am always so curious about what people are thinking about their own sexuality, and how they may relate to my sexuality. Lets be honest, and lets face it, being a topless dancer, or a full meal deal stripper… is a job. It is a job that makes money that hopefully pays the bills, and for many of the girls that I knew in the business that is all it was to them. They felt no interest or excitement about the job that usually paid quite well if they were talented enough to make the money, and they did not care about the customer they entertained. That is not the way it was for me. I enjoyed making the money, that's why I was there, but I also enjoyed the personalities of the customers, if they had one. Some of them were just blah blah blah, but that is no different than the way it is out in society anywhere. I very much enjoyed meeting the customers who had a personality for whatever type they were, and some of them were good, and some of them were not. Some of them were genuine bad boys, like outright criminals, white collar thieves in their business, and some were total creeps like drug dealers, and some of them were just James Dean style bad boys… that turned me on more than I should admit. There were also the good guys, the nice guys who would never hurt a fly, and I liked them too. Sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes I met men in the VIP areas who were willing to talk, to make friends, and those were the guys I liked the most, and sometimes those were the guys I would go out with later in a much more private way… to pick up where we left off in the VIP area. So I am curious, and I have always wanted to know… the male version of the general club experience that men have at the T&A clubs, the jiggle joints, the girlie bars where T&A is on the menu for a $20 bill for a three minute song, or at the classier clubs with the VIP areas that can be QUITE expensive. Bear in mind most places do not allow an exchange of bodily fluids, so the sex is not exactly complete, but a lot of guys do get off in VIP… just like I did with them many times although I didn't always allow them to know that even though I wanted to be honest with them, and sometimes was. (Visualize the most sensitive nipples on the planet, and not kidding either. LO  So if you would (please) respond to this blog, and tell me… on a scale of 1 – 10, or any other way you would wish to make a statement… what is your general impression of the club girls of your experience? Do you feel that most of them were honest with you? Did they allow themselves to get off with you? Were they in general good people? Or were they only actresses trying to make money? What was the BEST experience? What was the WORST experience? Did they ever go out with you? What was the most you ever paid them in a VIP area? Are you a frequent club flier or one of the club Groupees? Did or do you have a favorite, or two? If you can say so… where was the best club you have ever been in? Tell me, tell me, tell me This former T&A dancer wants to know because I still love to visit the clubs whenever I can Thank you xoxoxo Tallie  |
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5/3/2021 3:43 pm |
I loved Olympic Gardens !! The big tables you could jump around to see the ones that you liked. We'd be there for MNF. Too bad it closed.. Lots of memories there.
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Hi HAMONMAN Thank you for your response. I believe that is an honest answer from your perspective, but I think I must also consider your particular persuasion, and that is not meant in a critical way at all. I always wish friends much happiness in whatever way they may enjoy it the most I am hoping to get responses from men who like the other end of the spectrum aka as beaver city. LOL Thank you again. Have a great evening there
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lvasianman... I was in there a few times in the old days (pre-Covid), and the OG was cool, but from my own experience as a customer it was largely for the drinkers and loud partiers rather than the humper bumper lap dancees. LOL My favorite is in New Orleans, a place called Rick's Cabaret (it's big business, a big chain on the NASDAQ stock exchange). Their gimmick is the girls are allowed to sell dance dollars, if you know what that means. It draws a lot of high rollers, but I am not one of those. I'm just sorta friendly. LOL // Tallie
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Very nice!! You are gorgeous and you have sexy LEGS!!!
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Hi Leegs... Thank you for the nice compliment. I think you have a nice leeg too. LOL But... have you ever been to a gentlemen's club, and if so, what was your over all impression of the girls? See the questions in my blog above. Thank you (curtsy) LOL Tallie
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I stopped going, had a fake ID at 17 and was burnt out on it by 20. Did meet some great women. Also have been to AVN during the CES show. Always have loved women and when the personality is great even better. Some of the ladies who don't enjoy the job are a total turn off or think they are the next best thing to sliced bread.
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HI there time4phun Thank you for your comment. You were pretty young to be a "stick a bill in the box guy." LOL I do understand all of your comment because my own observation and experience was pretty much the same. Some of the girls are cool, and some of them are just twats. Next time you go. watch for me. Hopefully this pandemic crap will be over sooner than later and I can work again. // Tallie
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It's a job essentially. I've only ever been to a strip club twice. First time out of curiosity and second for bachelor party. All in my twenties. I mostly had fun. Was more interested in talking to the women than staring at them. Since then I have gone a handful of times to a TnA restaurant - usually at someone else's suggestion. Have nothing against restaurants, clubs, and bars but just not that interested. Have met a few stippers off the clock. I enjoyed getting to them in a non-physical way. “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.” ― Oscar Wilde
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Hi forgotforgetting Thank you for your comment. You sound like another smart man who has done well to resist the wily ways of designing women. LOL Just as an additional comment from me... there is a pretty distinct difference between the average titty bar and strip clubs. There aren't many real strip clubs around anymore, unless you want to consider some of the higher class clubs with VIP areas that are strip clubs in the sense that the customer is generally the one removing items of clothing from the girl in a dimly lit comfy booth, the easier for her to perform a lap dance for the customer. There are some clubs that I am not high on at all, like the boring table top dancers at places like the old Cheeta Club in Atlanta, even when the girls are nakey bare assed nude. The modus operandi is hop on a table, dance one song, don't say shit to any customers, hop down and run over to another table, dance one song, yada yada yada. I mean, how long can you sit there and look at raw pussy with no communication and maintain an interest that is real? My style does seem to do well enough making revenue, and I get to make a few real friends in the process. I enjoy talking with the guys that want to talk... about almost anything. It is usually a club rule as well as a rule of many of the girls that inside the club there is no kissy face, and definitely none outside the club. For me, outside the club is different. If I like someone I can smooch them up within the time I have allowed for the purpose of getting more acquainted with a nice guy, and sometimes in the parking lot on the way to the car where my hubby is waiting to pick me up. If my hubby is not there, however, for obvious reasons I don't do that unless a security guy is there, and the security guy is generally the first guy I kiss on the way out the door. LOL In the years after I worked at the T&A clubs I was an on stage entertainer with my male partner, and that was a lot different. It was more refined, more cosmopolitan, a higher class activity that sometimes involved full meal deal casting couches to make a lot better money, and I kissed more people in that mode than before when I was bare bazongas on stage. Thank you again for your comment, and have a great week // Tallie
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Hi Tallie. Admittedly, I am certain the industry has evolved on the 30 years. The last club I visited was in Vegas during the mid-90s. The club was selected because my college roommate was dating the owner. It was nice and had a VIP room - or what was called the VIP room. It was nice. A lot of flash and show but little else. I think you are an example of the tease being more alluring than the reveal. “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.” ― Oscar Wilde
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forgotforgetting... See there, I knew you were a smart guy. LOL The "tease" is always more remunerative than the final "reveal." It takes a lot of guys considerable time to learn that The club girls generally learn that pretty quickly just by trial and error. I suppose the antics are similar out in society, thus the gentleman usually pays for the date and the girls ride the wagon. I suspect it may involve the battle of the sexes with the bottom line being no free rides. LOL
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Tallie - I could be really mean about the free ride but I'll restrain myself.  Seriously, I think, from a relationship standpoint and regardless of how casual or fleeting, nothing is effortless. Popular culture would have everyone believe otherwise. Partly the reason why so many get disillusioned. No one is willing to enjoy the journey. “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.” ― Oscar Wilde
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forgotforgetting... I agree with your basic premise, relationships do require effort, sometimes major effort, but it can depend on the path taken and where it leads, how slow or fast it goes, and if it is a smooth concrete road, or gravel. I believe the old adage is correct. It takes all types and kinds to make the world go around, and that's a good thing. Otherwise we would all be very bored, and there would be no point to staring at blogs. LOL
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Tallie - excellent point on the utility of blogs. I also agree it does take all types. The problem I see is too few really embrace diversity as a strength. “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.” ― Oscar Wilde
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Forgotforgetting... I think diversity is a part of the spice of life. We just got back from NYC... where diversity was in full play in more ways than one. LOL // Tallie
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Hi Leegs... Thank you for the nice compliment. I think you have a nice leeg too. LOL But... have you ever been to a gentlemen's club, and if so, what was your over all impression of the girls? See the questions in my blog above. Thank you (curtsy) LOL Tallie
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Hi Tallie New to your blog. I have been to clubs in the US, Canada, Mexico and the Dominican from tiny little places to the huge clubs. Going to lunch with a client to late night encounters on my own. Those are kinda of days of the past unfortunately. I do agree it was always nice to talk to the girls and see if they had a personality and or if they just wanted the cash, nothing wrong with that at all either. It is their way of making an income. I have spent some good money and great times of several VIPs if it was with the right woman. And have taken a few of the sexy ladies back to my hotel and had some fun. Ahhhhh those were the days.LOL Detroit and Windsor have some very loose clubs but nothing compares to what I would almost call the brothels of Mexico and the Dominican Republic. Have a great day and keep blogging. Marcus
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Hi Marcus... Thank you for your comments... from a man of obvious experience It is in the news today about Vegas opening up again, which makes me a little nervous for the future, but if you want... go see what is happening in your favorite gentlemen's club and tell the rest of us what is happening. Are they still on the cautious side, or are they back into the lap dancing full meal deal? LOL // Tallie
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6/1/2021 2:16 pm |
I rarely go like I did in my 20s and 30s. Back then it seemed to vary by the girl, if I felt like she was genuinely wanting and enjoying spending her time with me it was a great turn in. If I felt it was mechanical then I didn’t push it any further than the song I paid for. Twice in my 20s I got much more than what was the normal, one of them taking me back to her place and demanded I visit her every night when she got off work 😎.
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Ttakqj... Hi there You sort of sound like the guys that I used to enjoy talking to when I didn't have to be on stage. That was more interesting to me than scooping up dollar bills on the stage. I always got bigger tips from your type than from any others, I suspect because they could tell I was being honest with them. When they picked up on that they almost always shifted gear from story and fantasy time to reality we were in as genuine friends. I can't remember how many times I told a guy he didn't have to tip me anymore if he was running out of money, and that set the tone for next time they came in with double and even triple tips. I made more money than most of the girls there by just being straight with the guys. I have to see how it goes when it opens up again. I am undecided between the Vegas clubs or going back to the cruise circuit. If they don't get started back up pretty soon that will give me the answer because we will be moving back to the islands before colder weather sets in anyway. Thanks for you comments. Keep us informed of how it is going out there. // Tallie
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6/19/2021 8:43 am |
The way you write you can be professional thats for sure
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BigDickSupply... Omigosh! Thank you for such a cool compliment. Maybe someday I will try to write more seriously, but I will still have to change the names of special friends. LOL // Tallie
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7/11/2021 11:20 am |
I have always loved the thought of female entertainment but it is not what I had expected I went to a club in Boston the golden banana what a great time beautiful woman friendly but went home without a good experience been to the Gentleman's club in Maine I got to meet a very beautiful woman tall long leg dream girl but sorry that life I believe sucks the real meaning of connection out of them or they are controlled by the business then 1 more time at pts in Portland maine where a girlfriend wanted to share an experience together still again not a good night she left without me I think someone put something in my drink just saying when a connection between 2 people is controlled by money things never seem to be real which is what I am looking for that is my experience.
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So if you would (please) respond to this blog, and tell me… on a scale of 1 – 10, or any other way you would wish to make a statement… what is your general impression of the club girls of your experience? General impression is most are lesbian, and this is mostly a job. That said, I'm sure they meet WAY more than their fair share of creeps, so this indifference is probably self-protective. No matter what, the "just a job" is almost always the impression I get. Do you feel that most of them were honest with you? No, with one exception. . Did they allow themselves to get off with you? Never. . Were they in general good people? Or were they only actresses trying to make money? Yes, and yes. I don't feel those were mutually exclusive. . What was the BEST experience? Tie between two. I was at a bar waiting for a drink (super busy there) when this really hot goth woman started dancing. I loved her moves and her look, but I could tell she wasn't having a good day (not sure why, just could tell). Maybe that is why none of the guys at the stage gave her even a dollar. When I got to the bar, I asked the bartender to send her to me for just a moment. It took a while, but when she came out, she gave me a brusque "yeah?" and she was in street clothes. I gave her a $20 and told her I enjoyed her dance while waiting for a drink, and I didn't want her to leave empty-handed. Her whole face lit up, and she gave me what felt like an honest hug. She looked me in the eye and thanked me. I told her I hope the rest of her night went better, and she kissed me on the cheek and told me she had to catch her ride. I just nodded, dumbfounded by the apparent display of human emotion. . The second was I asked for the VIP room with her. She was simply delightful, I loved looking at her body and face. Her body felt good during the "dance" but whenever possible, I looked at her face and into her beautiful eyes (a pale blue). She stopped about 3/4 of the way through it, and asked me why I was looking at her eyes, since most customers were focused on the main erotic zones. I didn't know why, and told her so - I just really had feelings (uncharacteristically) and her face just seemed more erotic than her body. She smiled, a bit bemused but definitely flattered, and continued. When it ended, she told me she was itinerant but she'd be back next month, and she'd like to see me again. I think she meant it. I didn't dare. I've managed to stay emotionally faithful to my wife, not falling in love with any other woman despite multiple friends with benefits and some casual sex. So I didn't go when she was scheduled to be there. . What was the WORST experience? Was down in Brazil on business, and went to a club (paid for by the host). I didn't realize it was a strip-to-play place. I get to an upstairs VIP room, and she starts taking her clothes off ready for me to have sex. I couldn't get hard. I think it was a combination of things - surprise, the room was uncomfortably hot, she was older than I realized, jet lag. She managed to get me off with a handjob, but it felt like every person we passed on the way back to my table knew of my "failure" - probably my imagination, but there you are. I've not been truly sexually excited at strip clubs since (though I still go once in a while). Did they ever go out with you? I never asked. I figured they got a 1000 propositions a weekend, and there were way more sexy guys than me asking. And the one who might have, I made sure to avoid as I explained above. . What was the most you ever paid them in a VIP area? $200 . Are you a frequent club flier or one of the club Groupees? No. I try not to go to any one place too often. . Did or do you have a favorite, or two? Yes. Pale Blue Eyes and goth. If you can say so… where was the best club you have ever been in? I believe it was called the Ambassador Club in Chicago, but I think it may be gone or changed names/management. That was in 1997. Did a quick search but only "Ambassador Public House" came up (that was definitely NOT it). Nothing changes faster than the speed of love. - Rush
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rakordubro... It seems you have had a pretty good rounded experience, and I appreciate your really good complete answer. In my own experience back in those days, I only knew one girl who was lez, but there were many that I did not know well. In spite of the fact that she was lez she gave the guys their moneies worth, and for that she earned my own respect. As you likely know, $20 bills are not the most common bill that goes in the box, and the Goth girl may have been playing you, but from your description she may well have been interested in you and wanted to check you out. It sounds to me like you impressed her as being a genuine potential friend and she was responding to that. In my own case I proved to myself many times that when men figured out that I was always being honest with them they would cut the B.S. and be honest in return. I made a lot of real friends that way, and I did go out with some of them occasionally.
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