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Turmoil amidst the war!
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Turmoil amidst the war! Here is one for the gipper and one to go down in history ...freaking believe it or not ! headline news : Appeals Court upholds ruling ordering 17 billion in damages to Quebec smokers! March 1st 2019 Montreal -The Quebec Court of Appeal has upheld a landmark judgement that ordered three tobacco companies to pay billions of dollars in damages to Quebec smokers .Imperia tobacco JTI MacDonald and Rothman Benson and Hedges had appealed a ruling that found the companies chose profits over the health of their customers. Mr. Phillip Trudel, a lawyer for the smokers who bought the class action called todays appellate court decision a complete victory and excellent news for victims.. In June 2015 Supreme Court Justice ordered the companies to make restitution to the tune of 17-billion to victims who either fell ill or were addicted to the product. One lawsuit was started by people who became addicted to cigarettes and the second lawsuit was started by those who suffered emphysema.Some 76 witnesses testified at the Superior Court trial and some 43.000 documents were deposited as evidence against the tobacco companies , saying that the smokers were not aware of the dangers of smoking . Says one victim, " It is excellent news for smokers who have been waiting for a long time we are clearly happy with this result." The victims lawyer Trudel says " out of all the billions I don't think its called a victory , but we call it a total victory on all fronts, now it leaves the doors open for more people to have been victims of the tobacco companies". Personally I quit smoking 18 years ago because I was fully aware of the hazards of smoking and the health risks so what did these people think when putting a substance into their lungs was going to happen? FFS ! |
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3/3/2019 2:28 am |
So whats next ? Oh wait milk drinkers suing the cows that produce milk saying they are addicted to moo juice..lol
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Is it really a personal choice to choose to smoke, when I was a kid the only place you got away from it was at school. Most men smoked visitors to the house all smoked in front of kids, the advertising was everywhere, claiming to give one confidence and certain brands claiming not to affect your health. Tobacco companies are very powerful lobbyists (suggested reading) "The Smoke Ring, the politics of tobacco. These days most western countries have banned smoking in public places and curbed their advertising, yet America has made trade deals where the other country has to accept tobacco products as part of the deal, often these countries have not previously had a culture of smoking. So I am pleased that Canada values the health of it's people enough to send such a strong message to these companies! Well done on having given up.
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3/3/2019 4:01 am |
I live in Montreal, and could not believe that result, but you have to realize back then, there was not too much knowledge about smoking
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It's a noble fight, which will be appealed by the companies and this will drag on for a while... Does every ex smoker lign up somewhere to collect his $100? 100 years from now, the lawsuits will be out there for claims against antibiotic infused beef and pork 🐷🐖and chicken... Oh my... 🍗🐔🐄 ... is there another way to look at it Going Too Fucking Far NEW Blog Features RevealeD O O A Foolproof Method Posted Over on that NEW site O O
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3/3/2019 6:51 am |
Is it really a personal choice to choose to smoke, when I was a kid the only place you got away from it was at school. Most men smoked visitors to the house all smoked in front of kids, the advertising was everywhere, claiming to give one confidence and certain brands claiming not to affect your health. Tobacco companies are very powerful lobbyists (suggested reading) "The Smoke Ring, the politics of tobacco. These days most western countries have banned smoking in public places and curbed their advertising, yet America has made trade deals where the other country has to accept tobacco products as part of the deal, often these countries have not previously had a culture of smoking. So I am pleased that Canada values the health of it's people enough to send such a strong message to these companies! Well done on having given up.
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3/3/2019 6:55 am |
I live in Montreal, and could not believe that result, but you have to realize back then, there was not too much knowledge about smoking
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3/3/2019 6:59 am |
I don't think that people learn enough about anything that's addictive...And I applaude your comment about saying people should sign a waiver when they take on something as important as a product that's going to create health issues ..I would def agree with that ..this has just been a joke , a very expensive joke for a business to have to pay for consenting adults to shove something in their body that definitely has reprecussions ...thanks for that comment
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3/3/2019 7:03 am |
It's a noble fight, which will be appealed by the companies and this will drag on for a while... Does every ex smoker lign up somewhere to collect his $100? 100 years from now, the lawsuits will be out there for claims against antibiotic infused beef and pork 🐷🐖and chicken... Oh my... 🍗🐔🐄
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So whats next ? Oh wait milk drinkers suing the cows that produce milk saying they are addicted to moo juice..lol  No, but I could see a lot of people suing companies that needlessly add sugar to their products for any number of health complications. Or for suing companies like MacRonalds for ridiculously clowning around with the fat and sugar content of their "healthy" menu choices to the point that a couple of cheeseburgers and fries is actually less fattening than a salad. (At least that was true the last time that I bothered to look at their nutritional information.) I'm smart enough to know better, but that's me.That aside, "so what did these people think when putting a substance into their lungs was going to happen?" I fully agree with you. Hell, I smoke cigarettes and pipe tobacco both. Not often. I full well know the health risks. But I also full well know the effect of stress on my blood sugar, and as a type 2 diabetic, a little self medication with tobacco every now and then when life gets rough is a lot healthier for me than letting my body switch to survival/carb-retention mode. And unlike alcohol, smoking has no carbs. (Granted, there's something even better to smoke if you want to relax, but unfortunately in the US that's still Federally illegal even if quasi-un-criminal at a state level. )To me, the key difference is that I don't smoke nearly enough to form an addiction in the first place, am smart enough that I'd break that addiction if I ever formed one, and I regularly breathe heavily doing enough cardio exercise that my lungs get a chance to expel the tar. Even then however, I know the risks, so I would never be so daft as to sue someone for my choices. I don't think anyone today could sanely argue that smoking is anything but a very thoroughly informed choice. You would literally have to live in a cave and grow your own to not be aware of the risks. Even an herb as sweet as basil is nothing without its bite. Lord Basil
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3/3/2019 6:48 pm |
My friend, like you mentioned before, your blogs are a lot different, majority of people on here, their blogs about sex and nudity, but yours about life, Cause and affect, and thing that could harm others. I love that everyone has their style or type of blogs they going to write about. Not saying one is wrong or one is right, It what the writer feels what important to them.
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I think of all the tricky marketing gimmicks over the years, and all the billions of dollars spent on advertising to attract new smokers at a faster rate than the old smokers were dying. The cancer sticks Big Tobacco pushes are fiendishly addictive, and once they get a young teen hooked, they probably have them for years and years. And who's worried about dying in their 50s or 60s when they're in their immortal teen years, right? So now a court says the tobacco companies have to pay out. Well damn! They've been profiting on death and illness for decades. Maybe the days of big money from merchandising lung cancer and emphysema, heart attacks and strokes are coming to an end.
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3/4/2019 7:44 am |
I think of all the tricky marketing gimmicks over the years, and all the billions of dollars spent on advertising to attract new smokers at a faster rate than the old smokers were dying. The cancer sticks Big Tobacco pushes are fiendishly addictive, and once they get a young teen hooked, they probably have them for years and years. And who's worried about dying in their 50s or 60s when they're in their immortal teen years, right? So now a court says the tobacco companies have to pay out. Well damn! They've been profiting on death and illness for decades. Maybe the days of big money from merchandising lung cancer and emphysema, heart attacks and strokes are coming to an end.
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3/4/2019 7:48 am |
Companies can do what they pretty much want but as consumers we need to make sure the product isn't harmful as an addiction or health issues ...do we? No ..we don't because the public is so intent on the convienence of variety that they are like kids in a candy store running willy nilly ...sure companies don't do enough advertising if the product is harmful to your well being ...but people have to be told smoking and your lungs could cause side effects ...yes they do because it leaves companies responsible ...companies now have to be Mother and Father to adults ? lol that's rich!
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3/4/2019 7:57 am |
No, but I could see a lot of people suing companies that needlessly add sugar to their products for any number of health complications. Or for suing companies like MacRonalds for ridiculously clowning around with the fat and sugar content of their "healthy" menu choices to the point that a couple of cheeseburgers and fries is actually less fattening than a salad. (At least that was true the last time that I bothered to look at their nutritional information.) I'm smart enough to know better, but that's me.That aside, "so what did these people think when putting a substance into their lungs was going to happen?" I fully agree with you. Hell, I smoke cigarettes and pipe tobacco both. Not often. I full well know the health risks. But I also full well know the effect of stress on my blood sugar, and as a type 2 diabetic, a little self medication with tobacco every now and then when life gets rough is a lot healthier for me than letting my body switch to survival/carb-retention mode. And unlike alcohol, smoking has no carbs. (Granted, there's something even better to smoke if you want to relax, but unfortunately in the US that's still Federally illegal even if quasi-un-criminal at a state level. )To me, the key difference is that I don't smoke nearly enough to form an addiction in the first place, am smart enough that I'd break that addiction if I ever formed one, and I regularly breathe heavily doing enough cardio exercise that my lungs get a chance to expel the tar. Even then however, I know the risks, so I would never be so daft as to sue someone for my choices. I don't think anyone today could sanely argue that smoking is anything but a very thoroughly informed choice. You would literally have to live in a cave and grow your own to not be aware of the risks.
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3/4/2019 8:04 am |
My friend, like you mentioned before, your blogs are a lot different, majority of people on here, their blogs about sex and nudity, but yours about life, Cause and affect, and thing that could harm others. I love that everyone has their style or type of blogs they going to write about. Not saying one is wrong or one is right, It what the writer feels what important to them.
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