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funcouple1976tt ; rude SOB!  

Heels_N_Squeals 50F
70 posts
6/13/2018 12:51 pm
funcouple1976tt ; rude SOB!

Some loser writes me today. Asks me to answer his question and to be honest. Here's the question:

"Funcouple176tt: ale of 1-10...how much do u like to give head? 1= yuck to 10= U would make out and give head to a cute realtor in a condo for sale posing as a fake buyer there to view the place?? 2:16 PM"

So being honest, I answered truthfully with my opinions, the he retorts like a . You are damned if you do; damned if you don't here on this shitty site with these idiot men!!! The story in pics tell the conversation. I'm so done with these shit-headed men here!!! Nothing but losers on this site 24/7.

Funcouple176tt








Wannacpl2play 48M
4 posts
6/13/2018 1:00 pm

these assholes mess it up for the good guys like me who are on here looking and get shut down because women don't give a damn about anyone by the way these assholes treat them here. gets me so mad!


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 10:36 am:
Agree!

5CwazyDaisy 54F  
213 posts
6/13/2018 1:22 pm

Great job calling him on his sh!t, something I also have to do all too often. Guess he hasn't heard about be careful what you ask for as you might not like the answer lol


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 10:38 am:
Exactly! I mean, he asked my honesty, I gave it to him. Simple. If he didn't like the answers I gave or wasn't what he wanted to hear, then it was his fault for opening the door in asking my honest opinions to begin with. Agree!

s2ndegree 65M
9800 posts
6/13/2018 2:00 pm

I would have thought the conversation would have ended after the
childish retort or k bye or okie dokie.

It's a shame that one exchange makes all men the same.
Unfortunately this private exchange lost it's merit right after you
said" It's fine.I'll expose this on site for all to see your behavior."
That's when you started speaking to the audience.
You bozo's?Plural?

Not everyone has the same reason that they chose this site and
it's unfortunate when it comes down to those who see this as a sex site and those who don't.I don't.I'm much more selective.

Using more than all the road!


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 10:35 am:
Well no, it shouldn't end after the retort of "okie dokie". Here's the thing, first of all we're all human beings here and adults. If someone writes to me, I do my best to reply back to them out of being kind toward another human who has written. This is basic common courtesy. How society ever got to the point of mentality to ignore others by default is boggling and rude. That's not how I was raised. I was raised to treat others with respect and to be respected in turn. That's just the thing on this site, you GIVE respect, yet you NEVER GET respect in turn for being nice in the first place. So stop sticking up for these bozos ( yes, plural to the 97% of them on this site ). This member is a gold premium member. He was perfectly able to read my profile, but he chose not to. Instead, he goes on to write to me with these misled thoughts because of his lack of reading. In turn, I'm nice to reply to him, I'm kind enough to answer his questions honestly, then he retorts childishly on me when he suddenly realizes that he's not getting sexual action from me because I seek friendship first. You think it was necessary for him to say " You should probably check out Match dot c o m" to me? No, of course not. That's childish and ignorant! Again, you stick up for his actions. All he had to say was sorry or admit that he didn't read profile or simply say that he appreciated my time and reply and make closure to move along with respect...something like that and I would have respected him and appreciated honesty and peace. But no, these super ego get in the way and nobody ever finds fault in one's self and can be man enough to admit it, so instead, it's the other person ( me ) who is suddenly the asshole. Why? Because I mind my business. Because some random stranger writes to me. Because I reply back, answer his goofy questions and be honest in doing so. If you don't see a problem here with any of what I just said, then you are part of the problem here, too.

MyBaffies 54M
4983 posts
6/13/2018 2:22 pm

Oh well, that's one less competition for the rest of us.

Baffies

Link to my blog: MyBaffies


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 10:39 am:
That's one way to look at it. Lol.

Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/13/2018 2:26 pm

I really don't see why you went off on a tirade on him. He's on the right site to be inviting women to give him a blowjob......if you didn't want to, you could have just said , "No", and be done with it.


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 11:06 am:
I don't think you quite understand. Re-read the conversation again. He wrote to me, asking my honest opinion on some theoretical question regarding how I like blowjobs ( he didn't initially say it was for HIM ). In turn, I answered his question with honesty.

I got pissed because when I am kind enough to respond to others here, the respect isn't given back in turn. We all heard the term "give respect; get respect"....and that's what's lacking here. We women give respect, yet never get respect in turn. So, he asked for my honesty and opinions, he got his answers....simple! If he didn't like the answers I gave, he shouldn't have asked for my honesty or opinions in the first place. Correct? So instead of respecting my answers, he apparently disagreed with what I said and then his super ego got in the way, so he retorts with childish retaliation with a Match dot c o m comment...and so sparked the idiocy by him.

Oh sure, he is on the right site for sexual matters. However, why he personally writes me for those sexual matters is another situation. Does my profile say I want to meet random strangers and give them oral sex? No, it doesn't. This is not my fault here, it's his fault for not reading my damn profile. When will you men wake up and see this stuff?

But anyway, I did essentially say "no" to the blowjob thing when I went on in the conversation to say his question was theoretical. He, in turn, said it's not theoretical and that the cute realtor guy at the condo was him ( basically hinting to me that he wanted to meet for a bj ). You'll read that I didn't show any interest in his proposition and told him that it was fictional to mostly all women who exist here, as they almost always seek friendship and compatibility established prior to sexual matters with them. So yes, I essentially did say "no", I was done with answering his question that he so badly wanted me to answer. At that point, all that he then needed to do was form respectful closure by thanking me for my time and for answering his question honestly and we could then part ways on a good note. Did he do that? NO!!! Instead, he chose to be a smart ass because his super asshole ego was blown to bits and shoot off a childish and sarcastic message to me. What isn't being understood about this and the need that us women here demand respect??? Is it too much to ask to say "thanks for your time, appreciate your honesty in answering my questions" or "my apologies for not reading/overlooking your profile details and I expected more" and "take care/good luck/have a great day"?? I mean, come on....should this really lead to messages like "go to Match dot c o m"? "You can fuck yourself for all I'm concerned"? "Your elementary education probably doesn't know what it means"? "Fuck off"? etc... If you don't understand this, then you are a big part of what's wrong here when it comes to respect being a two-way street here.

Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/13/2018 2:33 pm

Read just his lines..... he wasn't "Rude" until you started picking him apart.

You can't call him rude, in my opinion. He got understandably defensive around 30 minutes into your unpleasant conversation with him.

Reads as though you were the rude one this time. Maybe you were just having a bad day.


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 11:21 am:
What???? Me rude to him? How? His entire point of writing to me was in HIM wanting to ask me a question that he had and to be honest in doing so. I answered the question AND I was honest. Simple.

Picking him apart? How so? He was hinting at that point that he ( a complete stranger ) wanted to me with me for random oral sex. Does my profile say I seek random hookups? NO, it does NOT! It says that I seek friendship FIRST and possibly fun times AFTER friendship develops. How you defend this bozo is beyond my comprehension!! I wasn't having a bad day, I'm just tired of the nonsense here. The idea is so simple. Read profile. Does it say I am looking for a quick hookup with randoms? No. Move on. Yet you sit here and defend the goof and make it look like I'm the crazy one here.

Yes, I can and do call him rude! 30 minute mark?? He initiated contact with me at 2:14 p.m. - he shot off his first sarcastic comment at 2:27 p.m.. This is 13 minutes, not even half of your 30 minute mark that you claim.

Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 11:25 am:
And by the way, why would he get defensive toward me at all? I mean, no mystery in reading a profile and seeing the incompatibility. So by your logic, it's acceptable to be ignorant, then blindly write to someone with these irrelevant ideas in what you propose that have nothing in common with what the person seeks that you're writing to? Give me a break!! His butt is hurt due to his own ignorance in the matter. It's just that simple!

ProfessorNaught 111M
1406 posts
6/13/2018 6:32 pm

    Quoting  :

To what....
the fact that he's a jackass, or;
the fact that she took the effort to post it


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 11:30 am:
I see you're just another asshole here by this comment. You men are clueless! Might want to think for a second, if women are posting these sort of things against all of you bozos, then the idea might be to wise up, because look around you and honestly tell me how many real women you think still reside here, talk to men and actually follow through to meet them. ? I'd be highly surprised to find more than 5% of women here falling in to that bracket. And why is that so? Exactly because of the reasons for what you read regarding this specific blog. Get a clue, idiot!

Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/14/2018 11:45 am

aww... she removed the conversation... hahaha...


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 11:32 am:
No, don't be so quick to assume, goofball! I didn't remove the conversation at all. The site removed the conversation. I returned back here a few days later and to my surprise, my pics of this conversation were removed by the site. I re-added. We'll see if they stay up this time. Don't be an idiot your entire life. Every comment you make here makes you look foolish!

Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/17/2018 3:48 pm

Ha.. she brought it back....

So how about respecting him?! You want a friendship. That's what you said.... He is looking for a woman to have sex with. That is basically what he is saying.

Why could you not respect that?

Instead you got all uppity and accused him of looking for the physical , not the friendship...... that's pretty stupid considering the kind of site he , AND you, are on.


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/18/2018 7:26 am:
"Ha.. she brought it back...."

Again, I never took it down to begin with...the site itself did. Apparently it probably clashes with the TOS, but do I really give a damn if they boot me from their site for violating it? It's not like it'll be a major loss to me.

"So how about respecting him?! You want a friendship. That's what you said.... He is looking for a woman to have sex with. That is basically what he is saying.

Why could you not respect that?"

I respect everyone here and respect what everyone here is seeking. How do you figure I don't? I don't care what others seek. That's their business. Difference being is that when someone doesn't read profiles, then contacts me with some stupid question, then expects me to randomly meet a stranger for oral....then that becomes my business at that point. What don't you understand about this concept?

"Instead you got all uppity and accused him of looking for the physical , not the friendship...... that's pretty stupid considering the kind of site he , AND you, are on."

It isn't like I'm making false accusations against him. Read the conversation. He claims he was seeking friendship AND fun. If that's the case, then I would expect the conversation to be geared in trying to get to know me and not about physical attributes. Not only that, my profile says to be local and live within 30-40 minutes maximum from me....he lives over an hour from me. I love how you defend the idiot, the one who is gold here and refuses to read a profile, yet cannot see the obvious facts that I am making here. Then you ask me to respect someone who disrespects me. Get a clue!

I'm stupid? And what kind of site is this actually? It seems that you don't even understand what this site is designed for, yet you claim I'm stupid. Before getting into that, let me first say again that my profile says that I am looking for friendship and if that happens I hope some fun out of it ( sexually ). Now, about this site. The very name of this site implies that friendship is most definitely what this site can be used to find. In fact, people are on this site for a wide variety of reasons. It's NOT just for solely finding sex, so get that right out of your head. If that's your thought, then you don't even understand what this site is for and shouldn't be here.

This site can be used for physical or in-person aspects: Various forms of sexual reasons/fetishes/hookups , friendships, dating and socializing, etc... .
It can also be used for online-only aspects: Socializing ( chatting ), web camming, contests, blogging, online groups, magazine section, adult video section, reading erotic stories, blinging, etc... .

So if you think that this site is 100% ONLY for sex, then you're sorely mistaken and have misled thoughts directly from the start. If you don't understand this info, then the only stupid one here is yourself. Look around you here, majority of real women don't even have any intent to meet anyone in person, and there is no mystery why due to the way we're treated here and because of these misled thoughts that the only reason women exist here is to spread our legs. In fact, corporate section of this site, along with Wiki make no mention at all of anything regarding this site as actually being "sexual".

ProfessorNaught 111M
1406 posts
6/17/2018 5:20 pm

Heels_N_Squeals > funcouple1976tt ; rude SOB! (6/13/2018 12:51 pm)
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Quoting Wonder167:
I'm just shaking my head.
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ProfessorNaught:
To what....
the fact that he's a jackass, or;
the fact that she took the effort to post it
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Quoting ProfessorNaught:
6/17/2018 11:30 am
I see you're just another asshole here by this comment. You men are clueless! Might want to think for a second, if women are posting these sort of things against all of you bozos, then the idea might be to wise up, because look around you and honestly tell me how many real women you think still reside here, talk to men and actually follow through to meet them. ? I'd be highly surprised to find more than 5% of women here falling in to that bracket. And why is that so? Exactly because of the reasons for what you read regarding this specific blog. Get a clue, idiot!

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First, My comment (quote) wasn't on anything you said.
Second, I did not respond (to that quote) and then delete the comment from the post.
(what are you hiding? - Seems others here are echoing the same actions by you on their post)
Third, if you really want to discuss "assholes and idiots", look no further than your own content and stop blaming others for the stupid shit you do.....

Now on to commenting on your original post (since you seem to force a confrontation)

> I did not carry on the text message conversation for forty-five (45) minutes
>> It was not me who took seven (7) screenshots of the conversation just so you could post them in a blog.
>>> And, it was not me who baited the guy into carrying on that conversation for forty-five (45) minutes.

So lets talk about "assholes and idiots" who manipulate men and then turn an attitude and attack them for no reason at all - or, a reason the manipulator fabricates.

In fact, I did mention he was a jackass - And while I did acknowledge you went through considerable effort in your attempt to make yourself look like a victim just so you could attack a man you openly and willingly encouraged to engage in the conversation you posted (as if you were trolling for a guy to attack - he was your prey and you stalked him like some schoolgirl trying to draw attention to herself )

Respect is earned. You want it, give it first!

Otherwise, you're like the other women who play the same games on sites like this. I'd be surprised if you knew anything about the women that troll this place looking for hookups, NSA and the other bullshit they come up with. The site never had a respectful foundation from the day it started and really wasn't designed to be an amiable forum. It attracted idiots like you and about the lowest life of men thinking they could get laid because some marketing pitch said so. That is, if getting laid was the agenda of all men as you believe and exude in your character, personality and written word. So why are you here in the first place?

The only one "clueless" here is you! And when those attentive enough to call you out on it speaks up, you attack them and then attempt to conceal your actions by deleting the comments you post. Well, guess what, I reproduced the conversation (as you did) just so I could throw it back in your face. And, I even kept the one screenshot that contains it all not to post it in an attempt to smear you (you do that all to well on your own) but to prove a point and document who the real idiot and asshole really is...

If you want to come after me, you better go back to school. You're a 45 year old "single" woman with an unpleasant attitude and knack for manipulating men to satisfy and effect some personal revenge. Now take that to the bank and ask yourself, "why am I still single"! If you were to ask me the same - I'd say because of women like you and my ability to see right through your disguise.


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/18/2018 8:31 am:
Omg where do I start with this one?!?

"First, My comment (quote) wasn't on anything you said."
Are you saying that your comment of "the fact that she took the effort to post it" wasn't intended by you to sarcastically put me down or make me look foolish for posting this blog here?

"Second, I did not respond (to that quote) and then delete the comment from the post.
(what are you hiding? - Seems others here are echoing the same actions by you on their post)"
And as I have also echoed to another user, I posted this blog ( with the screen shot pics ). I was away from the site for a few days and upon my next sign-on and to my surprise, the site management removed my screen shot pics from the blog....( apparently a TOS thing ). As you can see, I re-added the pics. I'm not hiding anything and I didn't remove the pics. Only thing that's evident is that you're quick to assume that I had. Wrong! Why would I post a blog here, then take down the evidence? Makes no sense. So yeah, you're an asshole...you accuse me of something and don't even understand the facts.

"Now on to commenting on your original post (since you seem to force a confrontation)"
I forced a confrontation with this guy? How? For sitting at my desk signed on to the IM system, minding my business while an incoming IM comes in from him. This is me forcing a confrontation?? He asks me to answer a question and be honest, I did...again, this is a confrontation I brought on to him?? He failed to read my profile at all...and once again, this is somehow my fault for initiating a confrontation with him??

"> I did not carry on the text message conversation for forty-five (45) minutes"
Correct, I conversed for that period of time. What's not wrong or not understood of the will of general socializing with someone or to acknowledge others when they write to us?

">> It was not me who took seven (7) screenshots of the conversation just so you could post them in a blog."
You make it sound as if the only reason I took on his IM was in an effort to gather information so that I could post it here for malicious reasons. I took screen shots to provide evidence and show the world how much of an asshole this member is to me and as a red flag to anyone that may be interested in this member. Most times, what men write on their profiles do not reflect their real attitudes...that's why this blog does.

">>> And, it was not me who baited the guy into carrying on that conversation for forty-five (45) minutes."
I baited him? How? Again, I sit here minding my own business, an incoming IM comes in. He asked me to answer a question he had and to be honest with my answers...I did. This is ME baiting HIM??? So then once his question was answered, he could have merely told me "thanks for being honest ( per his request ), thanks for my time..." or something along those lines as a respectful form of closure so that we could both part ways. Did he do that? No! Instead, his super ego was smashed out of rejection of me meeting a complete stranger for oral sex, so he goes on to spout off some sarcastic comment of me going to the Match site. This was unnecessary and from this point forward is where the disrespect came in from his part and where I was getting pissed. What's not understood about this? Again, how is his initiation considered me baiting him? Unreal how you losers defend the guilty!

"you went through considerable effort in your attempt to make yourself look like a victim just so you could attack a man you openly and willingly encouraged to engage in the conversation you posted (as if you were trolling for a guy to attack - he was your prey and you stalked him like some schoolgirl trying to draw attention to herself )"
WRONG! He is a gold member, correct? YES! He ignored to read my profile prior to IM'ing me, correct? YES! Therefore, he brought this drama on by his own will. How am I attacking someone who initially writes me to ask a question? I answered him. Simple. End of story! What followed from there was his own idiocy. Period!

"Respect is earned. You want it, give it first!"
I gave him respect from the start by being kind enough to open his incoming IM and reply to him in a courteous and balanced manner, answering his questions respectfully, honestly and yet firmly in accordance with what I'm here for seeking. How did I NOT give respect first? Where in the conversation does it show where disrespect comes in? It comes in when HE advised me to go to the Match site. This is where my respect for him was lost. So don't sit here and make the guilty out to magically be innocent.

"Otherwise, you're like the other women who play the same games on sites like this. I'd be surprised if you knew anything about the women that troll this place looking for hookups, NSA and the other bullshit they come up with."
You're an idiot! So now all of the sudden I'm a troll? Why? Because I sit at my damn desk minding my own business, I take an incoming IM that was sent to me and answer someone's question? This makes me a troll or someone who is playing games??? Get the story straight, goofball...only person who is playing games is the idiot who pays for a gold membership, yet doesn't utilize it in actually reading profiles prior to writing others here, then has misled ideas of getting something that never exists in the first place ( per my profile criteria ). This is HIM playing games, not me. You're an idiot if you cannot see how black and white this concept is.

"That is, if getting laid was the agenda of all men as you believe and exude in your character, personality and written word. So why are you here in the first place?"
In his words he is here seeking "friendship and fun". Take note, he's also in excess of an hour from me ( which contradicts my profile criteria ). What simple concept isn't being understood here by you? If you live in excess of an hour, then why contact someone who seeks someone local and not exceeding a 30-40 minute distance ( per profile )? By that fact alone, there was no need to contact me. Nevertheless, putting distance to the side for a moment, if he sought friendship, then I'd expect friendship as being the foundation of his chat in order for potential physical sex acts to occur....in that order. Was it in that order? NO! You don't just look for a random BJ with a complete stranger and then expect to establish a friendship after the fact. Again, you're an idiot if you cannot understand the simple sequence of friendship, then play. It's not play and then "well, maybe a friendship will come from it". That's not reality and he could obviously care less whether friendship was there or not....which is why it's critical to form a friendship FIRST! Duh!

"The only one "clueless" here is you! And when those attentive enough to call you out on it speaks up, you attack them and then attempt to conceal your actions by deleting the comments you post."
Third time writing this on this blog, second time to you alone....I did NOT conceal my actions. The site removed my pics initially. You assume before knowing facts. I've attacked nobody. Again, give respect, get respect. When someone lashes out at me with sarcasm due to their ignorance or getting their butt hurt with rejection ( all of which should come to no surprise anyway from my profile ), then they are the idiots, not me. Get a clue, dummy!

"If you want to come after me, you better go back to school. You're a 45 year old "single" woman with an unpleasant attitude and knack for manipulating men to satisfy and effect some personal revenge. Now take that to the bank and ask yourself, "why am I still single"! If you were to ask me the same - I'd say because of women like you and my ability to see right through your disguise."
Me come after you? But wait, I didn't ask your opinions or ask you to post to this blog. You did that on your own terms and came after ME. What are you talking about that I came after you?
I'm 45 and single...your point being? What I gather is that you're astonishingly a 105 year single old male. Hahaaha Too funny! Yet you're calling me the clueless idiot here? Laughable! Me, unpleasant attitude? How so? Again, re-read the start of the conversation up to the point where he makes mention of the Match comment. How am I unpleasant? Firm? YES! Honest? YES! Unpleasant? NO! Why am I still single? It's by choice, dumb-dumb. The same reason you give me is the same reason I choose to be single....because society is a real mess, there are next to no manners anymore, respect is nearly non-existent, the mentality is always sex without a care for someone as a human being coming first ( if at all ), there's no level of trust or honesty, etc... . There is no mystery why many of today's women choose to be single. By the fact that you're here judging my by my choice in marital status goes to show your immature level of mentality on top of all else discussed above.

Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/18/2018 12:04 pm

Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/18/2018 8:42 am:
....Read profile first and if there is a reasonable level of compatibility through what's read on one's profile, contact them and take it from there.


He was not rude. He took a chance. That is not being rude. You, however, instead of saying , "No" and ending the conversation, you rode this out to a ridiculous ending.... you were rude. Not him.


PornDokter 51M
13 posts
6/18/2018 12:28 pm

Heathen_G - i'm agreeing with heels on this one. like she says..the concept isn't hard to understand on this site..if someone seeks apples on their profile then why write to them if you are seeking oranges? otherwise you are wasting your time and their time when you both can be finding actual matches. this is really simple to understand..why do you think we have profiles in the first place and fill them out if nobody is going to read them or go by what they say? this doesn't mean heels was rude to him man. it means that he's writing to her with nonsense. what chance is being taken if her profile clearly says she looks for someone 30-40 m or closer but he's over an hour? what chance is taken if her profile says she wants friendship first but he's writing to her and asking for a meet up instantly for a bj? she rode it out after saying no to him cause she wants respect and peace in the end and not arguing. nah i'm agreeing with heels all the way here man. you are dead wrong in how you think.


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/18/2018 8:16 pm

    Quoting PornDokter:
    Heathen_G - i'm agreeing with heels on this one. like she says..the concept isn't hard to understand on this site..if someone seeks apples on their profile then why write to them if you are seeking oranges? otherwise you are wasting your time and their time when you both can be finding actual matches. this is really simple to understand..why do you think we have profiles in the first place and fill them out if nobody is going to read them or go by what they say? this doesn't mean heels was rude to him man. it means that he's writing to her with nonsense. what chance is being taken if her profile clearly says she looks for someone 30-40 m or closer but he's over an hour? what chance is taken if her profile says she wants friendship first but he's writing to her and asking for a meet up instantly for a bj? she rode it out after saying no to him cause she wants respect and peace in the end and not arguing. nah i'm agreeing with heels all the way here man. you are dead wrong in how you think.
From 2:18 and on , she was quite rude. At 2:18, she should have disconnected the nonsense.

Between 2:14 to 2:18, she knew he didn't read her profile, yet she goes on to berate him, call him a loser , childish... He even suggest a better site for what she seeks [@2:27]... she says he's being childish.... [@2:29] he even said, "K bye".... but she continued. She knew she was making him riled up. That's what she wanted.

He's at fault for not reading her profile.... however she's rude in her behavior of continuing to pick him apart.

I'm right. She could have closed that communication down as soon as he mentioned blowjobs.


PornDokter 51M
13 posts
6/19/2018 7:24 am

Heathen_G - Wrong man! At 2:18 she answered his question honestly like he asked her to do. Nothing rude about that when he asked her to be honest about it. Since that was his reason for writing her then it should have been him that disconnected the convo, not her because she didn't know what he wanted or if he wanted to ask more or just to talk in regular chat.

Wrong again man! She took his IM out of respect to acknowledge him as a person. So between 2:14 and 2:18 the convo centers around his IM to her saying he had a question and asking her to answer it it truthfully. She did exactly that! At that point profile info is irrelevant here because don't you see she was just being kind to take his IM and to respond to her. You don't have to be a profile match just to simply talk to other people. It started to get into profile related stuff when he began digging to meet her for a bj. I agree with her because at that point the convo shifts from someone just wanting general chat or has a question to something very personal dealing with her search. All she wanted to do was get him to understand things so he was on the same page as her. He didn't want to so he made a stupid remark to go to a different site. Heels answered that perfectly when she replied to you on 6/18/2018 10:26 am when she said this to you...

I'm stupid? And what kind of site is this actually? It seems that you don't even understand what this site is designed for, yet you claim I'm stupid. Before getting into that, let me first say again that my profile says that I am looking for friendship and if that happens I hope some fun out of it ( sexually ). Now, about this site. The very name of this site implies that friendship is most definitely what this site can be used to find. In fact, people are on this site for a wide variety of reasons. It's NOT just for solely finding sex, so get that right out of your head. If that's your thought, then you don't even understand what this site is for and shouldn't be here.

This site can be used for physical or in-person aspects: Various forms of sexual reasons/fetishes/hookups , friendships, dating and socializing, etc... .
It can also be used for online-only aspects: Socializing ( chatting ), web camming, contests, blogging, online groups, magazine section, adult video section, reading erotic stories, blinging, etc... .

So if you think that this site is 100% ONLY for sex, then you're sorely mistaken and have misled thoughts directly from the start. If you don't understand this info, then the only stupid one here is yourself. Look around you here, majority of real women don't even have any intent to meet anyone in person, and there is no mystery why due to the way we're treated here and because of these misled thoughts that the only reason women exist here is to spread our legs. In fact, corporate section of this site, along with Wiki make no mention at all of anything regarding this site as actually being "sexual".


PornDokter 51M
13 posts
6/19/2018 7:46 am

Heathen_G - Ok yeah, at his 2:29 K bye comment he does say that. Still I side with Heels here. Although he was saying bye he wasnt really genuine. He just had his ass hurt by rejection and by knowing damn well he didn't read profile and was after something that wasn't there. Instead of being a man and thanking her, apologizing to her or leaving convo on a more meaningful manner than a childish and vague K bye he didn't and she expected a better closure. I can't blame her. Looking at the situation from any woman's view here..they write to these guys and then get dumped on in the end like they are just disposable. The guys see nothing wrong with wasting women's time here but when it's then the guy's time that's being wasted they just want to jet off a convo real quick with some vague shit and this leaves the woman feeling pissed and used. Heels said it perfectly in her 2:28 comment about why almost no ladies exist here and why none want to talk to men. I know because as nice as a guy as I am I have written to plenty of ladies and get almost no replies back. Women don't wanna deal with this shit no more and it's guys like this that are the reason. So yea man I totally see her point for posting this. Shows how all the assholes here ruined the scene for good guys like me.

Anyway true he's at fault for not reading her profile. At 2:22 he askes her why she's on here. If he read the profile before contacting her then he should already know as a gold member why she's on here. She wasn't rude to him until the point where he began digging and gearing the convo on physical stuff and to meet her for a random bj. Like she said women don't care about a guy's sexual needs. Ladies want a foundation first and friendship. Sexual things are inevitable once that happens. You guys just don't get it!
And you're right she could have closed down convo once he said bj, but she did turn him down on it and explained that most women don't go about it that way and she was looking for friendship first. He just had his ass hurt then and he shot off sarcasm to her with a Match comment. Unacceptable! Like I said you guys just don't get it! Heels I agree with you all the way.


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/20/2018 3:38 am

    Quoting PornDokter:
    Heathen_G - Ok yeah, at his 2:29 K bye comment he does say that. Still I side with Heels here. Although he was saying bye he wasnt really genuine. He just had his ass hurt by rejection and by knowing damn well he didn't read profile and was after something that wasn't there. Instead of being a man and thanking her, apologizing to her or leaving convo on a more meaningful manner than a childish and vague K bye he didn't and she expected a better closure. I can't blame her. Looking at the situation from any woman's view here..they write to these guys and then get dumped on in the end like they are just disposable. The guys see nothing wrong with wasting women's time here but when it's then the guy's time that's being wasted they just want to jet off a convo real quick with some vague shit and this leaves the woman feeling pissed and used. Heels said it perfectly in her 2:28 comment about why almost no ladies exist here and why none want to talk to men. I know because as nice as a guy as I am I have written to plenty of ladies and get almost no replies back. Women don't wanna deal with this shit no more and it's guys like this that are the reason. So yea man I totally see her point for posting this. Shows how all the assholes here ruined the scene for good guys like me.

    Anyway true he's at fault for not reading her profile. At 2:22 he askes her why she's on here. If he read the profile before contacting her then he should already know as a gold member why she's on here. She wasn't rude to him until the point where he began digging and gearing the convo on physical stuff and to meet her for a random bj. Like she said women don't care about a guy's sexual needs. Ladies want a foundation first and friendship. Sexual things are inevitable once that happens. You guys just don't get it!
    And you're right she could have closed down convo once he said bj, but she did turn him down on it and explained that most women don't go about it that way and she was looking for friendship first. He just had his ass hurt then and he shot off sarcasm to her with a Match comment. Unacceptable! Like I said you guys just don't get it! Heels I agree with you all the way.
Ok yeah, at his 2:29 K bye comment he does say that. ... That's right, he did, he was done.. Did she disconnect? No.

Although he was saying bye he wasnt really genuine. ...So what?! Maybe he was , maybe he wasn't.... He was done.

He just had his ass hurt by rejection and by knowing damn well he didn't read profile and was after something that wasn't there. ...He took a chance. He didn't get belligerent , until she became rude. She didn't need to take it that far... It solves nothing.

Instead of being a man and thanking her ... No reason to thank her. She was belligerent and argumentative. You don't thank a brat.

, apologizing to her.... After her rudeness? No way. He contacted her. She could immediately detect he did not read her profile, so instead of disconnecting, she made a mountain of drama out of it.

or leaving convo on a more meaningful manner . ..HA! "Meaningful manner"?!... Neither of these two people were ever going to attain something meaningful out of that mess.

than a childish and vague K bye .... You don't know it's "Childish".. he was done, he conceded. Was there a disconnect then? ...No. She furthered the drama. That is rude.

he didn't and she expected a better closure. ... Did she? Or did she just feel like fighting with the guy who didn't read her profile. He also suggested a vanilla site to find friends. That pissed her off more. Really, she's kind of foolish to get this hostile on a sex site where men are inviting women for sex, when he thinks he is attracted to a woman. He is on the appropriate site for that.

I can't blame her. ... No... You just won't... however, I can, because what she said, and when she said , is clear.

Looking at the situation from any woman's view here..they write to these guys and then get dumped on in the end like they are just disposable. ... He wrote her... [She said so, very first sentence, "Some loser wrote to me today.." . And she publicly calling him a loser, was rude of her, also.

The guys see nothing wrong with wasting women's time here ... She could have disconnected, and she should have , at 2:16... 2 minutes wasted.... She didn't need to further the conversation, wasting more time, but she did.

but when it's then the guy's time that's being wasted they just want to jet off a convo real quick with some vague shit ... "Vague shit"? You mean when he said, "K bye", @2:29? That's not vague. If he was here, I'd tell him, after "K bye" he should have disconnected, but instead , for some unknown reason, he read through her belligerence.

and this leaves the woman feeling pissed and used. ... Oh too bad. Her fault.

Heels said it perfectly in her 2:28 comment about why almost no ladies exist here and why none want to talk to men. .... There are women on this site, they do talk to men, and they do meet with men .

I know because as nice as a guy .... "As a nice guy".... so basically you have no game, your approach is weak and apologetic, and you want to first try to be friends with a woman you want to bed. That doesn't work.

as I am I have written to plenty of ladies and get almost no replies back. .... Because you're " a nice guy"...... for some reason you were taught to first be nice to women you want to have sex with, was a good idea . Who ever taught you that , was wrong.

The female needs to feel something visceral about the male writing her/approaching her.... if he's seeming like her gay best friend, of course he's not going to get a reply.

Women don't wanna deal with this shit no more ... It's not bullshit if a woman is aroused. Heels was not aroused. She was upset, she became rude... and furthered a mess that should have ended at 2:16 by her own disconnect.

and it's guys like this that are the reason. .... No.. he did alright. His mistake was not reading her profile. His approach was appropriate for a sex site.

So yea man I totally see her point for posting this. ... No, you're looking at it from a "Submissive male" point of view, completely skipping over the facts of the situation, and in the process taking her side because she's upset, when it's all completely her fault for dragging it out. But you're not going to tell her that.

Shows how all the assholes here ruined the scene for good guys like me. .... He wasn't an asshole. He is just more aggressive, getting to the point of why he contacted the woman [Heels], and you find competing with these aggressive men very difficult, because your approach is a weak, "Let's be friends". ....I repeat.. .he wasn't an asshole, he didn't get rude until she furthered this along, getting belligerent and picking him apart.

Anyway true he's at fault for not reading her profile. ....Yes. Agreed.

At 2:22 he askes her why she's on here. If he read the profile before contacting her then he should already know as a gold member why she's on here. ... Agreed.

She wasn't rude to him until the point where he began digging and gearing the convo on physical stuff and to meet her for a random bj. ...Then she should have disconnected. Once again, "Appropriate site". .... No kidding he was going "Physical". That should be expected from men seeking women. Even on vanilla sites, aggressive men are going to get to the point of why he contacted the woman , whom he is physically attracted. That's natural.

Like she said women don't care about a guy's sexual needs. ... Women do care about his sexual needs when the woman is attracted to the guy, because the "Sexual need" coincides with her own.

Ladies want a foundation first and friendship. ... No. She will take "Friendship foundation" with men she has no sexual arousal , no visceral feeling for, if he shows promise to be a good token gay friend. ........But if he's hot, she's all over him. Friendship, if it happens at all, can happen later.

That's your problem... you want "Friendship with women first. That doesn't work. When you find yourself sexually attracted to a woman, go ahead and be aggressive , make sure she has no doubt about why you're trying to get with her. Doing this, is okay.

Sexual things are inevitable once that happens. .....Ha.. "Friendship"? No. You get to be the guy she runs to , to complain about the hot guy who hurt her feelings. She'll talk and talk about him... you'll do the "Nice guy -listen".... and she'll feel better.. and leave to contact the hot guy who will bang her into walking funny. Not you.

You guys just don't get it! ... No , you "Nice guys" can't see your own flaw, or probably just don't have it in you to be anything else.

And you're right she could have closed down convo once he said bj, .... Yes.. she should have.

but she did turn him down on it .... Not really... she went on to say she loves giving oral sex and it's a big part of intimacy to her..[@2:19]. That is called "Baiting".

and explained that most women don't go about it that way ... That's wrong.. "She" doesn't go about it that way. She's also on a well known hookup site for sex and swinging , looking for friendship first. That's funny.

and she was looking for friendship first. ... Yes, and that's funny. He suggested she should try the vanilla site [@2:27].. and she says, here comes the childish retorts. Rude of her.

He just had his ass hurt then .. No.. his comment [@2:27] about the vanilla site was practical... She was too upset to notice. He even said "K bye" [@2:29].

and he shot off sarcasm to her with a Match comment. .... that wasn't sarcasm. It was a reasonable comment to what she's looking for.

Unacceptable! ...The comment of the vanilla site was totally acceptable.

Like I said you guys just don't get it! .... We get it fine.. you want to be the prince who saves the damsel in distress.... only the prince doesn't give off a sexual vibe. That's your problem.

Heels I agree with you all the way. .... That's what I mean... you want to desperately come to the woman's defense , even though she's wrong.


PornDokter 51M
13 posts
6/20/2018 8:01 am

Heathen_G - Here are some of the things you just quoted and agreed upon.

Anyway true he's at fault for not reading her profile. ...."Yes. Agreed."

and it's guys like this that are the reason. .... "No.. he did alright. His mistake was not reading her profile. His approach was appropriate for a sex site."

You are making a huge mountain out of a mole hill. The answer is directly in what you agree on. Did he read her profile? Yes or no? NO!!!!!!! He did NOT!!!
Therefore, there was no reason whatsoever to contact this woman to begin with and pursuing her for sexual matters. None. Zilch. Nada. Zero. Understand??? This is so simple to comprehend. You go on this enormous debate here but the key to it all is in what you admit him NOT doing..which was reading her profile before he contacted her. This is his damn fault not hers. Like I said before,,people don't need to be profile matches to be a kind person and chat or to answer someone's question without the modern day idiotic standards of 'ignore by default'. If someone writes and says "hi" or says "I have a question" then there doesn't have to be a profile match to socialize or be nice enough to open an IM like an adult and chat/answer a question.

You are as clueless as the guy in the IM is. You make all quotes of the whole Match comment and how that's vanilla and this site isn't. You do realize that you are in fantasy land? I see you making no quote to ALL of the reasons of what she said this site has to offer. The reason this site doesn't work for most people here is because very few can look past the fact of sex ONLY. In the minds of men they think the site is purely a "sex site". It is NOT! She laid out all the various reasons people come here for but you ignore them. You men have this imaginary idea in your minds that women are all here for sex. Not true at all!! In fact most women here choose not to meet anyone and just come here to socialize,cam,blog and things like that. There's a difference between 'adult oriented' and 'sexually oriented'. Majority of men cannot differentiate the difference between the two and so this site is trash because of that fact. When will you dudes wake up and understand simple and basic shit here? The Match site is for those singles who actually specifically want online dating and relationships. Seriously, does anyone actually ever read the fucking 'Corporate', 'About' or 'Who we are' pages on sites before they join. Seems most people are on this site and don't even understand all the various things it offers. You are so lost man!


Rochblue 46F

6/20/2018 8:44 am

    Quoting PornDokter:
    Heathen_G - Here are some of the things you just quoted and agreed upon.

    Anyway true he's at fault for not reading her profile. ...."Yes. Agreed."

    and it's guys like this that are the reason. .... "No.. he did alright. His mistake was not reading her profile. His approach was appropriate for a sex site."

    You are making a huge mountain out of a mole hill. The answer is directly in what you agree on. Did he read her profile? Yes or no? NO!!!!!!! He did NOT!!!
    Therefore, there was no reason whatsoever to contact this woman to begin with and pursuing her for sexual matters. None. Zilch. Nada. Zero. Understand??? This is so simple to comprehend. You go on this enormous debate here but the key to it all is in what you admit him NOT doing..which was reading her profile before he contacted her. This is his damn fault not hers. Like I said before,,people don't need to be profile matches to be a kind person and chat or to answer someone's question without the modern day idiotic standards of 'ignore by default'. If someone writes and says "hi" or says "I have a question" then there doesn't have to be a profile match to socialize or be nice enough to open an IM like an adult and chat/answer a question.

    You are as clueless as the guy in the IM is. You make all quotes of the whole Match comment and how that's vanilla and this site isn't. You do realize that you are in fantasy land? I see you making no quote to ALL of the reasons of what she said this site has to offer. The reason this site doesn't work for most people here is because very few can look past the fact of sex ONLY. In the minds of men they think the site is purely a "sex site". It is NOT! She laid out all the various reasons people come here for but you ignore them. You men have this imaginary idea in your minds that women are all here for sex. Not true at all!! In fact most women here choose not to meet anyone and just come here to socialize,cam,blog and things like that. There's a difference between 'adult oriented' and 'sexually oriented'. Majority of men cannot differentiate the difference between the two and so this site is trash because of that fact. When will you dudes wake up and understand simple and basic shit here? The Match site is for those singles who actually specifically want online dating and relationships. Seriously, does anyone actually ever read the fucking 'Corporate', 'About' or 'Who we are' pages on sites before they join. Seems most people are on this site and don't even understand all the various things it offers. You are so lost man!
You are exactly right. He didn't read a profile but still gets in touch with her for sex. Very easy to see that he is at fault. Right again....Nothing wrong with taking an im to talk to people. Only reason females don't reply is because we get wrapped up in stupidity when we do because exactly the reason that nobody reads a profile first. Heathen seems to be a troll by providing a massive amount of bogus info and leaving out key reasons.

Between you and him I am seeing different approaches.
Heathen is the douchebag guy who wants a bang, goes bye and leaves nothing behind but a dim memory that most of us women choose to not remember or consider it a mistake. Right....nearly none of us women look for that here at all! We want positive personality, intelligence, meaning, comfort, trust, loyal acceptance, decency and someone who has values and is goal-driven (or at least who works). Sex is one of the least things we really expect here.
Porndokter is light years in the race for having a firm grasp on understanding the meaning of the site and the feminine human elements involved. To be friends doesn't mean that he's the gay friend we run to for supportor to unload our problems on. It means he's genuine, that he shows a real care for me as a person and his will to know me and accept me for who I am. This is a huge part of the puzzle that lacks here these days. Guaranteed, you develop friendship first and like he said, the sexual things are inevitable. I miss the several really good friends I had like that. Nobody wants a user.....we have sex toys that don't come with an emotional rollercoaster ride or treat us like dirt if we need to get off.

Very well said PD!


Wannacpl2play 48M
4 posts
6/20/2018 11:56 am

Amen to those comments 5CwazyDaisy, Xxxfunxxx91, JAPeter1969, ST308 and most of all to PornDokter, Rochblue and Notelllover for their valuable input.

As for the other assholes s2ndegree, Heathen_G and ProfessorNaught, everyone is right about you, you really are clueless losers here who don't understand simple stuff and who are trashing the scene for those who actually look for something real. Congrats, you've succeeded in running the scene nose first in the ground.


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/20/2018 4:28 pm

    Quoting PornDokter:
    Heathen_G - Here are some of the things you just quoted and agreed upon.

    Anyway true he's at fault for not reading her profile. ...."Yes. Agreed."

    and it's guys like this that are the reason. .... "No.. he did alright. His mistake was not reading her profile. His approach was appropriate for a sex site."

    You are making a huge mountain out of a mole hill. The answer is directly in what you agree on. Did he read her profile? Yes or no? NO!!!!!!! He did NOT!!!
    Therefore, there was no reason whatsoever to contact this woman to begin with and pursuing her for sexual matters. None. Zilch. Nada. Zero. Understand??? This is so simple to comprehend. You go on this enormous debate here but the key to it all is in what you admit him NOT doing..which was reading her profile before he contacted her. This is his damn fault not hers. Like I said before,,people don't need to be profile matches to be a kind person and chat or to answer someone's question without the modern day idiotic standards of 'ignore by default'. If someone writes and says "hi" or says "I have a question" then there doesn't have to be a profile match to socialize or be nice enough to open an IM like an adult and chat/answer a question.

    You are as clueless as the guy in the IM is. You make all quotes of the whole Match comment and how that's vanilla and this site isn't. You do realize that you are in fantasy land? I see you making no quote to ALL of the reasons of what she said this site has to offer. The reason this site doesn't work for most people here is because very few can look past the fact of sex ONLY. In the minds of men they think the site is purely a "sex site". It is NOT! She laid out all the various reasons people come here for but you ignore them. You men have this imaginary idea in your minds that women are all here for sex. Not true at all!! In fact most women here choose not to meet anyone and just come here to socialize,cam,blog and things like that. There's a difference between 'adult oriented' and 'sexually oriented'. Majority of men cannot differentiate the difference between the two and so this site is trash because of that fact. When will you dudes wake up and understand simple and basic shit here? The Match site is for those singles who actually specifically want online dating and relationships. Seriously, does anyone actually ever read the fucking 'Corporate', 'About' or 'Who we are' pages on sites before they join. Seems most people are on this site and don't even understand all the various things it offers. You are so lost man!
Did he read her profile? Yes or no? NO!!!!!!! He did NOT!!! .... Calm down... this is already agreed . He did not. ........We think it, ......Heels [she] thinks it.... But the fact is she did not end the conversation back at 2:16, when it should have ended by her own action. ..............also... I say "Think it"... because he never confirmed or denied anything about reading her profile.

Therefore, there was no reason whatsoever to contact this woman to begin with and pursuing her for sexual matters. ... But he did, and he had his reason [we'll never know] .... But 2 minutes into the conversation, she had the option to end it..................she did not end it.

None. Zilch. Nada. Zero. Understand??? ... But he did. Do you understand?..... This entire mountainous conversation has been about : Why didn't she end the conversation immediately upon learning he -supposedly- did not read her profile? ...She can't call him rude , for taking a chance. However, HEELS was rude to him, blatantly.

Like I said before,,people don't need to be profile matches to be a kind person ... There was nothing "Unkind" about the beginning of their conversation. ....But once she began reading he wants something she does not.... she should have ended the conversation [back at 2:16]. So who was rude... Him? No. Her?... Yes.

If someone writes and says "hi" or says "I have a question" then there doesn't have to be a profile match to socialize or be nice enough to open an IM like an adult and chat/answer a question. ....True.. and at [2:14] he did exactly that... he asked if he could ask a question. She became aware he had a question. At 2:16 she learns the question was about blowjobs....she laughs. At 2:19, she baits him , telling him she loves giving oral....he then invites her. She cannot call him "Rude" for this.

You make all quotes of the whole Match comment and how that's vanilla and this site isn't. ... That is true. In this site society, this site is not considered "Vanilla".

I see you making no quote to ALL of the reasons of what she said this site has to offer. ... No need to. However, this site offers the chance to find sex.... and he is looking for sex. Once she found that out.. she should have disconnected, instead baiting further conversation.

The reason this site doesn't work for most people here is because very few can look past the fact of sex ONLY. ... Nobody said anything about "Sex only". ..... At 2:23 she said she is basically looking for a friend... and fun....at 2:23 he said he is cool with that, and looking for a friend and fun.

In the minds of men they think the site is purely a "sex site". ... No. But in the minds of men and women... clearly this site is about sex.

She laid out all the various reasons people come here for but you ignore them. .... Didn't need to address them. The point is, this is a sex site, and sex is clearly advertised.

You men have this imaginary idea in your minds that women are all here for sex. ... Not true. But you can't get upset because men make sexual remarks and tells the woman he is looking for a blowjob. ... She has the option of disconnecting at that point.

In fact most women here choose not to meet anyone and just come here to socialize,cam,blog and things like that. ... That's fine, as long as women respect that men have come to the appropriate place to seek sex.

The Match site is for those singles who actually specifically want online dating and relationships. ... No..[no such thing as online dating and online relationships]... they want offline relationships. They go to Match to "Find" someone who wants that. If the "Dating"[aka sexual chemistry] is there, then it may [and more likely] go into a commitment. Far more likely, than from finding someone on this site willing to seek commitment.

However, you need to squabble about that with the guy she was chatting with... He was right, though, going to Match would have been a far wiser move for her, if sex is repulsing......But, men on Match will eventually mention having sex.[just not immediately]. Or he could have just mentioned "Friendfinder".


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/20/2018 5:15 pm

    Quoting Rochblue:
    You are exactly right. He didn't read a profile but still gets in touch with her for sex. Very easy to see that he is at fault. Right again....Nothing wrong with taking an im to talk to people. Only reason females don't reply is because we get wrapped up in stupidity when we do because exactly the reason that nobody reads a profile first. Heathen seems to be a troll by providing a massive amount of bogus info and leaving out key reasons.

    Between you and him I am seeing different approaches.
    Heathen is the douchebag guy who wants a bang, goes bye and leaves nothing behind but a dim memory that most of us women choose to not remember or consider it a mistake. Right....nearly none of us women look for that here at all! We want positive personality, intelligence, meaning, comfort, trust, loyal acceptance, decency and someone who has values and is goal-driven (or at least who works). Sex is one of the least things we really expect here.
    Porndokter is light years in the race for having a firm grasp on understanding the meaning of the site and the feminine human elements involved. To be friends doesn't mean that he's the gay friend we run to for supportor to unload our problems on. It means he's genuine, that he shows a real care for me as a person and his will to know me and accept me for who I am. This is a huge part of the puzzle that lacks here these days. Guaranteed, you develop friendship first and like he said, the sexual things are inevitable. I miss the several really good friends I had like that. Nobody wants a user.....we have sex toys that don't come with an emotional rollercoaster ride or treat us like dirt if we need to get off.

    Very well said PD!
He didn't read a profile.... Well we all really "Think" he didn't read her profile. That he did not, has never actually been established .

but still gets in touch with her for sex. ... Yes. He takes a chance. History is full of men who took chances, and some women, too.

Very easy to see that he is at fault. ....He didn't deserve her belligerence. She could have terminated the conversation at 2:16.

Right again....Nothing wrong with taking an im to talk to people. ... And that is what he was doing. Agreed.

Only reason females don't reply is because we get wrapped up in stupidity ... Not the only reason... sometime women don't like the man's profile or just his picture... Did Heels look at his profile?

when we do [get wrapped up in stupidity] because exactly the reason that nobody reads a profile first. .... So disconnect the IM conversation when you first notice the conversation going the wrong way.

Heathen seems to be a troll ... I am not a troll. I'm defending the guy because I don't see that he is deserving of a public labeling of being rude. When clearly she was rude.

Heathen is the douchebag ... See now you are being rude. This is a civil debate.I'm defending the guy.

We want positive personality, intelligence, meaning, comfort, trust, loyal acceptance, decency and someone who has values and is goal-driven (or at least who works). ... Good on you, but this is the most least likely site to find that person. Heels discussion is a clear example of that. ..but he is on the appropriate site for what he looks for.

Sex is one of the least things we really expect here..... LOL.. seriously?

Porndokter is light years in the race for having a firm grasp on understanding the meaning of the site and the feminine human elements involved. .... However, even by his own admission.. he gets turned down. [Porndorker said: I know because as a guy as I am I have written to plenty of ladies and get almost no replies back. ]

To be friends doesn't mean that he's the gay friend we run to for supportor to unload our problems on. ... Didn't say he was gay.. said he is the "Token" gay friend. He is the male you seek , if you don't have actual gay male friends. These nice straight men end up in the woman's friendzone. She seeks him out when she is bothered by the hot guy whom she wants to have sex with.... not the "Nice guy".


It means he's genuine, that he shows a real care for me as a person and his will to know me and accept me for who I am. .... True. However , he , being a straight male, would still appreciate sex, or a blowjob from you , to show your appreciation, now and then. Instead you take advantage of those men.

Guaranteed, you develop friendship first and like he said, ... No. First there needs to be sexual chemistry. .... The, "Let's be friends first".... is how a woman tells a man , "I have no sexual interest for you".....................and he is nice and kind that he hangs around and hangs around... listens , talks... but gets no sex. He get used. His woman friend is the user.

If you both acknowledge neither of you ever want to see the other naked and have sex.. then fine. You're friends. ................But in most situations, the male approaches the woman because he is sexually interested. Some are just too nice to say, "I'm sexually interested in you".

the sexual things are inevitable. .... No it isn't. Not without chemistry, and chemistry is instantly noticed, .... not always acted upon instantly.... but definitely noticed. .....So when the "Nice guy" says, "Can we have sex".... she says, "But if we have sex, that will ruin the friendship" [there is no sexual tension nor chemistry]....................How many times have you heard that Porndocker?


PornDokter 51M
13 posts
6/21/2018 9:19 am

Heathen_G - Man, you are going in circles here. What don't you understand? He initially wrote to her with a question. At that point it was socializing. In his mind maybe he had other intent but in her mind they are just chatting up to the point where he's digging for bj's. She tells him flat out in a general sense that almost no women here would just meet a random stranger for a bj..although he's walking on thin ice at this point it's still general chatting and what she is doing at this point is giving the hint that she doesn't meet randoms for bj's. Essentially she's saying "don't go there because I don't do it and I'm not interested in that and I'm here to chat to you and answer your actual question". I think he got the hint at that point and asked her why she was on the site. Again he should already know why she on here..but he didn't read her damn profile. You spout all of this stuff about her baiting him..not true at all. In actuality it was HIM baiting HER by strategically setting up his bj realtor question in a manner that lures her in by first saying "may I ask a very specific question???". This first question sets up mystery and the reader is now curious what the question is about. She acknowledges and agrees to engage in chat with "sure as long as it's nothing off the wall". He asks for her honesty, then proceeds to ask her an off the wall question anyway. She basically laughs at him with a laughing smiley but she answers him honestly anyway. And so the rest unfolds...

You just keep going in circles here about it with your contradictions.

'Therefore, there was no reason whatsoever to contact this woman to begin with and pursuing her for sexual matters. ... But he did, and he had his reason [we'll never know] .... But 2 minutes into the conversation, she had the option to end it..................she did not end it.'

You said "But he did, and he had his reason [we'll never know]" - This is his own stupidity then. How is it her fault for engaging in a general chat?
"But 2 minutes into the conversation, she had the option to end it..she did not end it". - Right she didn't end it. She took on the chat FOR chatting. Why would she end a chat if she agreed to take it on because she wanted to chat? He had his question answered honestly by her. If that's all he wanted then fine..he should have left at that point. He didn't! He kept pressing her. If he wanted to general chat..fine..the door seemed wide open to do so and he just kept pressing on physical features and physical intimacy rather than on friendship things that he first said he was looking for. Multiple times all she did was try to get him back on track to where he needed to be in general chat. Instead he ignored her words and kept on pressing. Sure, she could have left the chat but the whole reason she took it on is because the point was to chat and to answer a question. If someone wants to fucking chat then do so like an adult. These women don't need to hold these men's hands and continually guide them on track. If they cannot follow basic cues or a catching on to vibes that don't seem like the other person is interested in then switch the game up and align your chat to the same level as what the other person is here for. Simple!

'I see you making no quote to ALL of the reasons of what she said this site has to offer. ... No need to. However, this site offers the chance to find sex.... and he is looking for sex. Once she found that out.. she should have disconnected, instead baiting further conversation.'

"No need to." - Yes there is a need to! You somehow feel as if this site can not provide anything else except for sex by the way you talk. This just isn't true. There are a ton of reasons people come here and only a fraction of those reasons actually have to do with two or more people meeting up and performing sexual favors to one another.
"However, this site offers the chance to find sex.... and he is looking for sex." - True it offers a potential to find sex. He's looking for oral sex but she isn't. There is no mystery here. If he read profile before sending an IM to her then this is his fault.
"Once she found that out.. she should have disconnected, instead baiting further conversation." - His entire plan was in baiting her from the start. He was too damn lazy and ignorant to read a profile but makes up this baiting strategy to draw interest and then hope to get lucky. Fact of the matter is that he doesn't realize she's not game. Why? Because he didn't fucking read!!!! His fault all the way!!! So in her mind - "oh this guy has a question and/or is just writing me to chat..sure, no problem".

'She laid out all the various reasons people come here for but you ignore them. .... Didn't need to address them. The point is, this is a sex site, and sex is clearly advertised.'

"Didn't need to address them." - Yes she did need to! It helps you goofs understand that it serves more than a single purpose of just getting laid.
"The point is, this is a sex site, and sex is clearly advertised." - No, it isn't! Sure, it's ADULT oriented and has sexual flavor being obvious, but that doesn't translate into it being purely a sex site. When we turn on a late night HBO movie and it says 'this movie is rated R for mature ADULTS' it doesn't translate to HBO as being straight up balls deep porn! Sure, you'll have a flavor of romance, maybe see a set of tits here and there, some foul language or maybe a few scenes of violence. That's ADULT. The name of this site Senior Sizzle. It's an ADULT personals site and an ADULT social media outlet. It doesn't say Adult SEX Finder. The corporate section says who we are and what the site is for. It doesn't mention "sex" anywhere at all. The sexual advertisements are merely a ploy to generate profit because this is a business and sex sells. So although their mission doesn't actually come out and say it's "sex", the illusion they give does say that. Problem being is that we all fall for the illusion and think this site is 100% purely about sex. Not at all the truth. I can't imagine that even 10-15% of the population here actually meets up, let alone for sexual matters.

'You men have this imaginary idea in your minds that women are all here for sex. ... Not true. But you can't get upset because men make sexual remarks and tells the woman he is looking for a blowjob. ... She has the option of disconnecting at that point.'

"But you can't get upset because men make sexual remarks and tells the woman he is looking for a blowjob" - Not true. Her profile laid everything out for what she wants. If someone overrides that info then they are crossing the line and pushing the envelope. This is not acceptable. Period! If he is looking for a bj then it's his responsibility to read profiles and look for someone who is looking for random hookups for oral sex. Again this is simple to understand! You don't blindly write to someone who contradicts what you look for.

'In fact most women here choose not to meet anyone and just come here to socialize,cam,blog and things like that. ... That's fine, as long as women respect that men have come to the appropriate place to seek sex.'

"That's fine, as long as women respect that men have come to the appropriate place to seek sex." - Very true! They do come to the right place for finding sexual matters. However, the difference being that he was disrespectful to her the moment he hit the send button on his first IM to her if he didn't read her profile before sending IM to her. THAT's the difference! I don't think the women have a problem with what all of the pervy guys come here for, as long as criteria matches with what they look for when IM's come in.

I don't understand your mentality. This isn't rocket science to understand. If you just want to socialize with someone for the hell of it, say so and be sure to read a profile first. Otherwise if you have deeper intent then you just read a profile first and ask yourself if what you just read is a match for what you are looking for. Yes or no? If yes, write to her. If no, then no need to contact someone at all ( which is what her blog is about ). Period! Simple! Why this has to turn in to a huge mountainous debate is boggling!


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/21/2018 11:53 am

    Quoting NoTellLover:
    Heathen_G don't be a dope. its clear he didnt read a profile. i mean whatever if he just wanted to chat and she was just chatting and made a reply back to his queston. how many women take the time to reply back? she was being nice to him by doing so. it became personal when he was hinting for a blow. this ain't about taking a chance. this is about him being a major dick for not reading and thinking he could get some action that isnt there in the first place. she wants a fwb. he wants a a quickie nsa blow. two different things. so if shes here just chillin and chatting then theres nothing wrong with it. that's what im is for. but if hes gonna rattle her cage and push boundary then he needs to read before goin after a blow that aint game. this ain't taking a chance this is being stupid and ignorrant. he's being a bully. why would she wanna leave a chat when she took it on to chat because he wanted to chat to her in first place? don't be a dumb-dumb! if everybody else here can see the same thing and agree then why cant you?
its clear he didnt read a profile. ... No it isnt.... but we all "Think" he didn't.

i mean whatever ... Sure.... go read the conversation again.

if he just wanted to chat .... No "Ifs" about it, he was chatting.

and she was just chatting and made a reply back to his queston. ... And when his question became counter to what she wants to deal with, she should have ended the chat [@2:16]. That would have been appropriate instead of she turning rude and belligerent.

she was being nice to him by doing so. ... Doesn't matter if she was "Being nice"... she became rude. For her own good, she should have ended the conversation when she noticed stuff about blowjobs. He either read her profile and was taking a chance, or he didn't read it. .... But that now really doesn't matter.

it became personal when he was hinting for a blow. ...Yes, at 2:16 at the start of the shown conversation.. and then is when she should have ended the conversation.

this ain't about taking a chance. ...You don't know that.

this is about him being a major dick for not reading and thinking he could get some action ... That's not being a dick. And again, at the point [2:16] when he began mentioning blowjob scales.... she should have terminated.

she wants a fwb. .... That doesn't work from online. Besides, any person as to meet , to even determine sexual chemistry. If there is no sexual chemistry, no desire to get each other naked, then you can forget about the benefits, and being just a "Friend" with a woman he wants to see naked, would be a complete waste of time for him.

he wants a a quickie nsa blow. ... Yes... and he's on the appropriate site for finding that.

so if shes here just chillin and chatting then theres nothing wrong with it. ...Doesn't matter if she's chilling and chatting , or fuming and chatting... she had the responsibility to terminate when she suspected he did not read her profile.

but if hes gonna rattle her cage and push boundary then he needs to read before goin after a blow that aint game. .... We don't know for sure , if he didn't read, or if he did read and was taking a chance.

he's being a bully. ... LOL.. oh little girl, if you think that was him being a bully, you have no idea what a bully is. If she had terminated he conversation, and he tried to chat with her again on the same topic, THEN you could call him a bully. Okay kiddo?

why would she wanna leave a chat ... Normally people leave chats when they suspect the other of not reading ones profile.

because he wanted to chat to her in first place? ... Doesn't really matter what he wanted... when she suspected him of not reading her profile, that is when she should have terminated.

if everybody else here can see the same thing and agree then why cant you? ... Because you and some of the others don't see, or failed comprehension. Some of you are too ready to kiss up to her , when clearly she was the rude belligerent person in the conversation - she should have ended at 2:16.


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/21/2018 12:58 pm

Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 11:06 am:
I don't think you quite understand. Re-read the conversation again. He wrote to me, asking my honest opinion on some theoretical question regarding how I like blowjobs ( he didn't initially say it was for HIM ). In turn, I answered his question with honesty.

I got pissed because when I am kind enough to respond to others here, the respect isn't given back in turn. We all heard the term "give respect; get respect"....and that's what's lacking here. We women give respect, yet never get respect in turn. So, he asked for my honesty and opinions, he got his answers....simple! If he didn't like the answers I gave, he shouldn't have asked for my honesty or opinions in the first place. Correct? So instead of respecting my answers, he apparently disagreed with what I said and then his super ego got in the way, so he retorts with childish retaliation with a Match dot c o m comment...and so sparked the idiocy by him.

Oh sure, he is on the right site for sexual matters. However, why he personally writes me for those sexual matters is another situation. Does my profile say I want to meet random strangers and give them oral sex? No, it doesn't. This is not my fault here, it's his fault for not reading my damn profile. When will you men wake up and see this stuff?

But anyway, I did essentially say "no" to the blowjob thing when I went on in the conversation to say his question was theoretical. He, in turn, said it's not theoretical and that the cute realtor guy at the condo was him ( basically hinting to me that he wanted to meet for a bj ). You'll read that I didn't show any interest in his proposition and told him that it was fictional to mostly all women who exist here, as they almost always seek friendship and compatibility established prior to sexual matters with them. So yes, I essentially did say "no", I was done with answering his question that he so badly wanted me to answer. At that point, all that he then needed to do was form respectful closure by thanking me for my time and for answering his question honestly and we could then part ways on a good note. Did he do that? NO!!! Instead, he chose to be a smart ass because his super asshole ego was blown to bits and shoot off a childish and sarcastic message to me. What isn't being understood about this and the need that us women here demand respect??? Is it too much to ask to say "thanks for your time, appreciate your honesty in answering my questions" or "my apologies for not reading/overlooking your profile details and I expected more" and "take care/good luck/have a great day"?? I mean, come on....should this really lead to messages like "go to Match dot c o m"? "You can fuck yourself for all I'm concerned"? "Your elementary education probably doesn't know what it means"? "Fuck off"? etc... If you don't understand this, then you are a big part of what's wrong here when it comes to respect being a two-way street here.


You got an I.M. from a guy holding his boner, on a hookup site, and he asks you if he can ask you a "Specific question" [about blowjobs] , and 10 being you would give head to a realtor posing as a fake buyer.... and you tell him you like giving head... he tells you he is a realtor ............You're not stupid, you should have terminated the conversation right there, @2:16 or @2:19.

Him , saying, "You should probably checkout Match".... was not childish...and he was essentially giving you a good idea based on what you seek. A better suggestion would also have been "Friendfinder".

You're not here for hookups,, you're here to make friends. That's fine... but men are here for sex. ....Even seeking a "Fwb", anyone first needs to establish mutual sexual chemistry. Not, "Lets be friends and see what happens".

And you can't demand respect, nor can you expect respect [from anyone], and he certainly did not need to thank you after your picking him apart. That's just ridiculous.


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/21/2018 2:01 pm:
You are talking but you are NOT listening to what me or others are telling you. Listen for once!

"You got an I.M. from a guy holding his boner, on a hookup site, and he asks you if he can ask you a "Specific question" [about blowjobs] , and 10 being you would give head to a realtor posing as a fake buyer.... and you tell him you like giving head... he tells you he is a realtor ............You're not stupid, you should have terminated the conversation right there, @2:16 or @2:19."

I went over this before. This site isn't solely a hookup site. Understand, asshole??? The site is used for many reasons.

At the time I took on his IM he merely told me he had a question. That's all!! I opened his IM and told him that I would agree to answer it as long as it wasn't off the wall. What does he do, but ask some theoretical question. He didn't first say that he himself was a realtor at a condo, he merely stated a theoretical question. I answered it truthfully. I did NOT say that I wanted to OR that I would like giving HIM head. All I did was answer his question in a general sense. Do I like giving head was the question....my answer, yes, I enjoy it and think it plays a major part in intimacy ( in my own honest opinion, as he was asking ). Stop twisting the scenario. I didn't lead him on or bait him by answering the question and I even told him right up front that his question was purely theoretical and that I had no comment to the realtor part since it was theoretically-based and irrelevant to the basis of the actual question at hand.

I'm not parting conversation. He wrote to me first and wanted to chat and so I did.

"Him , saying, "You should probably checkout Match".... was not childish...and he was essentially giving you a good idea based on what you seek. A better suggestion would also have been "Friendfinder"."

It was very childish. If he doesn't know of all of the different reasons that one can reside on this site, then he needs to brush up on knowledge of knowing the site isn't all about purely sex. Most people ( women ) aren't here to meet for sex anymore.

Friendfinder? You do realize that Senior Sizzle is all part of the Friendfinder network, correct? There must be a dozen or two sister sites all within the Friendfinder network. And no, I know what I seek here and there is nothing out of the ordinary or inappropriate for what I seek here. It's well within the parameters of what this site is here to offer.

"You're not here for hookups,, you're here to make friends. That's fine... but men are here for sex. ....Even seeking a "Fwb", anyone first needs to establish mutual sexual chemistry. Not, "Lets be friends and see what happens"."

Incorrect! My profile says I seek a friend first, and hopefully potential fun to follow if a friendship develops first. This means FWB. So I'm here for both friendship and for sex....in that order. Chemistry would need to be established for sure, but you are taking this way out of the scope of what this blog entails. I didn't reply to him for "chemistry" or to "make a friendship with him" or to eventually "have sex with him". I replied to him to take on his question. That's all! Again, you take this way out of the scope of what the discussion pertains to.

"And you can't demand respect, nor can you expect respect [from anyone], and he certainly did not need to thank you after your picking him apart. That's just ridiculous."

Nope, sorry. Disagree! I was raised with the morals of 'give respect, get respect'. I give it to others, so I expect it in return. Easy concept to follow, correct? You're ridiculous! How many females here actually respond to men at all? Nearly none! I'm not putting myself on a pedastal for doing so, but what I do expect is for the other person to acknowledge that I have taken my time and effort to reply to you, so I expect respect and courtesy within my conversation with the other party. If you don't like the honest answers I give you when you ask, tough! Why did you ask my opinion and honesty from the start then? Keep your thoughts to yourself if you cannot handle it, tell me respectfully that you appreciate my time or simply that we don't see eye to eye and form a respectful closing note so we can part ways on a good note. This is extremely basic and simple stuff!

Quit making more out of this than what it is and defending the asshole here. Nobody is agreeing with you. Get a clue! We all can't be wrong.

Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/21/2018 8:19 pm

In response to: PornDokter 46M .. 6/21/2018 9:19 am

What don't you understand? ... I'd ask you the same question.

He initially wrote to her with a question. .... He did. And the question was from a man holding his boner, asking about, 10 being the best; giving a realtor a blow job, and he is a realtor.... what do ya think the implication might be?

At that point it was socializing. ... No.. At the point of Heels answering the I.M., it was socializing..... but then the "Socializing" quickly became apparent to where the socializing was going, and she could see that.

She tells him flat out in a general sense that almost no women here would just meet a random stranger for a bj. ... She means she would not.... however other women have been known to meet with men, and get sexual. Why? Because the chemistry was there.

and what she is doing at this point is giving the hint that she doesn't meet randoms for bj's. ... What time-point was that.

Essentially she's saying "don't go there... She didn't say that. Stay to what was said. In fact she did say she likes giving head. She enjoys it in the 9-10 range, -not a "No"... so he then told her he is a realtor..... -still she has not disconnected.

You spout all of this stuff about her baiting him. ... She's not saying "No"... she's not disconnecting. She did tell him she likes giving head [@2:19].

then proceeds to ask her an off the wall question anyway. ... Then her sense should have told her the guy holding his boner was up to something, and disconnected.

How is it her fault for engaging in a general chat? ... That's not what I said.

"But 2 minutes into the conversation, she had the option to end it..she did not end it". - Right she didn't end it. .... Yes..... So she can't pretend she's all upset and shocked. She cannot call him rude, because up to the suggestion of looking at Match ... then at 2:27 she started being rude to him. ....Although @2:24 she was determining this guy was not here for friendship. [Took long enough].

he should have left at that point. ....At 2:24... if not 2:16... is when she should have pulled the plug...... He hadn't been given any reason to end this yet.

Sure, she could have left the chat but the whole reason she took it on is because the point was to chat and to answer a question. .... Okay, so then this is all her fault. In fact she didn't have to get rude , but she did... she could have disconnected.

If someone wants to fucking chat then do so like an adult. .... He did. And appropriately for the site, I'll add.

"No need to." - Yes there is a need to! ...No there isn't a need to include the other stuff the site offers.. because men know what they want when they fill out a profile , add a pic, and join a hookup site.

You somehow feel as if this site can not provide anything else except for sex by the way you talk. ... This is a sex site. Does that confuse you? You, too, as funcouple, have a picture of your boner, what message are you telling women, do you suppose.

There are a ton of reasons people come here and only a fraction of those reasons actually have to do with two or more people meeting up and performing sexual favors to one another. ... However, "Sexual favors" is what funcouple made quite clear. . Heels could see that.

True it offers a potential to find sex. ... Yes, and that's what he was shooting for.

He's looking for oral sex but she isn't. ... Then she should have disconnected.

If he read profile before sending an IM to her then this is his fault. ... We don't know for a fact he didn't read it. Yes, he asked her at 2:22 "Why are you on here" ... but that is not a confirmation he didn't read her profile..... but did, or did not, the question was civil.

His entire plan was in baiting her from the start. ... Of course it was. That's not wrong. But she failing to disconnect, was wrong. She, baiting him on a topic that is distasteful to her, was wrong.

He was too damn lazy and ignorant to read a profile ... We don't know that.

but makes up this baiting strategy to draw interest and then hope to get lucky. ... Yes.. that's what men do when he thinks he has found a woman he likes.

So in her mind - "oh this guy has a question and/or is just writing me to chat..sure, no problem". .....We don't know how naive she is , either. What we do know, is what is shown in the conversation.

"Didn't need to address them." - Yes she did need to! ..... Sure she can address them all she wants....however , I did not. Because the guy was hoping to engage her in some sex.

it serves more than a single purpose of just getting laid.... .. Maybe it does, but the purpose of joining a site with a bunch of naked women on it, on cam, on chat, on file... is sex. You know that , since you're showing your penis erect.

Sure, it's ADULT oriented and has sexual flavor being obvious, but that doesn't translate into it being purely a sex site. .... It translates into , "Hey buddy, you're on the right site to find sex".

'You men .... About that. Are you a chick trying to prove something?

"But you can't get upset because men make sexual remarks and tells the woman he is looking for a blowjob" - Not true. .... If she was so upset, she should have disconnected the conversation. But she didn't... she got all upset, and she was rude to him.

Her profile laid everything out for what she wants. ... Maybe it does , maybe it doesn't.... no where in the conversation did she ask him , "Did you read my profile". ...No where did he say he did, or didn't , either.

If someone overrides that info then they are crossing the line and pushing the envelope. .... People can push the envelope. It's called , "Taking a chance".

This is not acceptable. ... It's fine. Haven't you ever been contacted by those you don't want? Sure you have. They took a chance.

You don't blindly write to someone who contradicts what you look for. ... If that is what he did? This is called, "Taking a chance".

'In fact most women here choose not to meet anyone and just come here to socialize,cam,blog and things like that. ....That is your result, because nice guys don't attract chicks, except for being her platonic friend.

However, the difference being that he was disrespectful to her the moment he hit the send button on his first IM to her ... No... he was taking a chance. People can do that.

I don't think the women have a problem with what all of the pervy guys come here for, as long as criteria matches with what they look for when IM's come in. .... Sure.. if she is a pervy woman... all is good. If not, then she should disconnect since she did not contact him. Instead of being rude to him.

I don't understand your mentality. ... However , I understand yours.

Why this has to turn in to a huge mountainous debate is boggling! ...... Because you are upset that there are more aggressive men , and they take chances. At any time , before Heels got upset and rude with him , she could have terminated the conversation.


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