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Leegs2012 51M
96137 posts
6/17/2018 10:10 am

Great post and how so true those words written in the picture!! I have 3 FWB's!!


pocogato12 71F  
37235 posts
6/17/2018 11:13 am

Going asking first and getting a positive response when I want/need it is very rare. Great post

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MeetCnW 64M/63F

6/17/2018 11:44 am

My way of thinking is if you are honest with a man and not shy about what you are feeling most guys would love to be called for a Booty Call.
Never to ask is never to get.


Apollorising2057 63M

6/17/2018 12:55 pm

My FWB, my wife, asks me first all the time!

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bulehyatt 65M  
1717 posts
6/18/2018 3:27 am

But it depends on how hot you are, meaning the hotter/more attractive you are the better he will treat you, so of course there will be circumstances where she always has awesome sex.

I distinctly remember a casual partner telling me that if a woman messages first for sex it usually means she wants a relationship,


I suppose it depends on the hot woman in the first sentence above. And that it depends on the guy/casual-partner in the second sentence. That said, my own experience is that neither generalization is true as a rule.

I have been lucky, fortunate, charmed - whatever word you prefer - to have had women of varying physical attractiveness share their pussies with me. My experience is that how hot the sex is results directly from how enthusiastic BOTH partners are about the coupling.

I've had mediocre to cringeworthy-bad sex with relatively attractive "starfish women" in the past, as well as hot, Hot, HOT sex with less-conventionally attractive women.

How hot the sex is doesn't correlate - certainly not directly or in linear-fashion - with how conventionally "hot" the woman is. I expect multiple considerations factor in - but mainly how well your personalities click and how comfortable both are (she especially) with their own naked bodies.

You know about starfish-women, right - sort of like the sea-creatures that you sometimes see in shallow tidal pools along ocean beaches. Why starfish ? Because they may be nice to look at . . . but they just LAY there. No fun and no thanks!

As for women signalling clinginess or desire-for-more-than-FWB strings-of-attachment by messaging first for sex - well . . . no, hasn't been true for me in the handful of instances where my new friend-for-fun made the first move. I'm totally flattered by a woman hitting on me, by the way. As I will guess many men would be.

I'm not saying that your assertions are wrong, Miss Flower. Only that my own experience has been different.


bulehyatt 65M  
1717 posts
6/18/2018 5:51 pm

aflower2c replies on 6/19/2018 12:18 am:
I can bet that you tried your best to impress ythe conventionally attractive women, whereas you know the less attractive woman is used to disappointment so it doesn't matter the effort you put into the sex as long as you get your orgasm.


I'm sad for you that you have had so many disappointing experiences with previous sexual partners, Miss Flower.

As a thought-experiement: change the activity we're discussing from "sex" to "playing tennis" . . . or to "ball-room dancing" . . . or even to board-games like "gin rummy" or "scrabble" or "trivial pursuits".

Does your level of effort in these fun, engaging activities with friends change based on their physical attractiveness ? Hmmm . . . I suspect - or at least I hope - that you try your best and simply enjoy the activity together - not so much the "winning" (call that the orgasm), unless you're the hyper-competitive type ?

And I suspect that your effort doesn't vary based on how tall/short your activity-partner is . . . or how slim/thick their body-shape is . . . or how symmetrical/unconventional their facial-structure is. After all, the point is sharing the pleasure from engaging in the activity - NOT especially who wins the most.

With the preamble that I haven't had much experience with classic one-time hook-up culture . . . say, picking up women in bars for F/F/F encounters. (that would be Find/Fuck/Forget), perhaps my comments really apply ONLY to ongoing friends-with-benefits relationships ?

With that preamble . . . because I neither want nor really even understand seeking one-time hook-ups with random strangers . . . perhaps some of your past (badly-behaving) partners have been the "looks for F/F/F" type of hook-ups.

Myself, I like to fuck friends - repeatedly, and for many months/years into the future. Which sorta requires that I first invest some effort and conversation into developing the friendship before our clothing comes off.

Most people don't choose their friends (the platonic kind, say) based on how the person looks. What matters more is whether their conversations are interesting and fun and whether it's comfortable and entertaining to spend time with each other.

Yes, my female friends-for-fun have been different shapes, sizes, fitness-levels and ages ranging from a few years older than me - even now/today - to younger. Some would win hotness-contests; some would probably describe themselves as "plain". All have interesting/fun personalities - that's the common thread.

Last comment - for me, the sex itself is most of the fun. And male orgasms are over-rated compared with the ongoing pleasure of stroking in and out . . . or of having her grind-down and ride wantonly in woman-on-top. So I will always choose to control my orgasm and resist cumming in preference for continuing to fuck. Because at my age - I'll be 60 in October - it takes me 30 to 40 minutes to recharge my erection.

So no . . . nope . . . you would lose your bet about me varying my level of effort put into sex. My orgasm - while fun, sure - lasts only a few short seconds. While the actual fucking tends to last until she gets sore (rare) or we run out of time, 2-plus or 3 hours after the play-date commences.


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