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LADS' MAGS  It’s still Breast Awareness Month (or, at least, that’s my excuse). Above is Lucy Pinder who often models for lads' mags, such as FHM, Front, Loaded, Nuts, Stuff and Zoo. These magazines focus on so-called men’s issues like alcohol, cars, music, sex, sport, television, tools and women. Sales of lads' mags have crashed over recent years. In the UK, there is a Lose The Lads Mags campaign to ban lads' mags from being sold in shops. The campaign is supported by Women’s Aid, Local Mums Online, R ape Crisis, UK Feminista and Object. This campaign argues that lads' mags are sexist and treat women as sex objects. Kat Banyard, representing the Lose the Lads Mags campaign, said that "By portraying women as dehumanised sex objects, they send out the message that it's normal and acceptable to treat women this way, and we know from extensive evidence that lads' mags like Nuts and Zoo fuel sexist attitudes; attitudes that underpin violence against women." Breaking ranks from other supermarkets, the Co-op supermarket chain has insisted that lads' mags can only be sold in its shops if they are covered up with ‘modesty wrappers’. But Sophie Bennett, again representing Lose the Lads Mags campaign said the Co-op was not going far enough and that the "'modesty bags' they are demanding from publishers are designed to allow the Co-operative to continue profiting from sexist, harmful lads' mags - but just a bit more discreetly." A former editor of Front magazine, Piers Hernu, said the Co-op's decision was "very dangerous" and amounted to "censorship" and that the Co-op had "caved in" to a "vociferous campaign from some fanatical feminists". A former model, Aisleyne Horgan-Wallace, argued that shops should be allowed to sell lads' mags as the internet provides far more "horrific" sexual imagery which is "freely available" to young men. She added that "There's a complete difference to a sexy woman in lingerie on the front of a magazine to hardcore pornography.” In a recent ITV-commissioned survey in the UK, 45 per cent of people thought lads' mags are ‘harmful to society’ and 77 per cent would not allow their to buy a lads' mag. Do you think lads' mags should be freely and openly sold in shops? Or do you think lads' mags should be banned or, at least, sold with a modesty wrapper from the top shelf? The top and bottom shelves always seem more interesting than the middle shelves in shops; supermarkets always place products with the highest profit margins they want people to buy in the middle shelves directly in people's eye-line. I think very tall and very small people enjoy supermarket shopping than people of average height! [PS This post was originally banned because it contained the r ape word. Also Co op with a hyphen has to be shown with handcuffs. Fucking Senior Sizzle - I can get away with posting that!] |
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I'm with you on this one - modesty wrappers are OK - but anything more is censorship. Hell, modesty wrappers are their own form of censorship. Let's face it - we will never get away from "sex sells". Yes, the magaines may objectify women. But then, do the leaders of the "Abolish Lad Mags" also want to get rid of Playgirl? Is it even still around? Check out my profile or and become a "watcher" of my blog FMAOPLS,to learn more about me, and for intelligent, lively, smartassy and fun discussion, with a little irreverence thrown in. "Like" or comment on my photos, and I promise I'll add more. Thanks.
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I really don't know I thought folks had a freedom of speech thing that lets everyone write what they want too. That isn't something I would read. Not my cup of tea. hugs V Become a blog watcher sweet_vm
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There are very few places that sell men's mags here now. Drug stores don't sell them any more plus the government made Drug stores stop selling smokes. Any food store with a pharmacy in it cannot sell smokes. Smokes cannot be on display in any store for purchase. (|they have to be concealed!
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I don't think that "you can find worse on the internet" is any defence for selling something in a supermarket. The original point that they made was asking whether children should be exposed to magazines that objectify women. I don't think that it's too controversial to say that they shouldn't (though the argument that went with it "How do I explain these images to my child?" is ridiculous - if you are a good parent then it provides an opportunity to talk about how society treats women). However, I think that selling the mags in bags, putting them on the top shelf, covering the display with opaque plastic. etc. would meet those concerns. It is clear that these extreme feminists want to kill off these mags completely. I have some sympathy with the idea that they provide a kind of vocabulary that can be used to objectify women and that they are part of a larger problem - language is fundamental to the way we describe the world and therefore in reinforcing how we interpret it (this is the chairman argument). On the other hand, while I find the mags crass and immature (and increasing so do most men), it's not my place to tell people what they should read. I would say that the fight against the objectification of women is best progressed by pointing out that it is wrong, not by making it forbidden. Finally, the biggest disappointment, and the biggest flaw in their argument, is that they haven't gone after women's magazines - these are FAR more popular than lads mags and far more damaging. The front covers of Cosmo and the like are more explicit, the content is more likely to provide some kind of unattainable aspirations: particularly damaging is the way they portray the ideal woman as effortlessly slim, sexy, multi-tasking and multi-orgasmic, and if you don't match up then there's something wrong with you. The women's magazines can often be hyper-critical of women's bodies, whereas lads mags are a joyous celebration of the female form - it might be objectification to reduce women to tits, arses and pretty faces, but at least they are real women. Unlike the air-brushed, size zero women appearing in women's magazines...
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I know this isn't answering your question, but she has a really lovely body. 
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I'm with you on this one - modesty wrappers are OK - but anything more is censorship. Hell, modesty wrappers are their own form of censorship. Let's face it - we will never get away from "sex sells". Yes, the magaines may objectify women. But then, do the leaders of the "Abolish Lad Mags" also want to get rid of Playgirl? Is it even still around?
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Firstly spunk, let me say "good work" at re-editing this post so you can share this topic with us Secondly, there is nothing wrong with these mags as they glorify the beauty of women and promote heterosexuality rather than denigrate women. The 'Lose The Lads Mags' folk should grow the fuck up and get their heads out of their arses. As Aisleyne Horgan-Wallace rightly stated, there's far more sexually denigrating imagery of women on the internet. Lads mags should not be banned, the modesty wrapper is a good option for keeping the innocent young innocent just a bit longer and I think the top shelf is the appropriate placement for this sort of material. I'm not a prude but I think that it should mostly be reachable by its target demographic (guys over a certain age), a shop assistant or other male purchaser can help reach a copy for the short of stature. 
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The UK is quite liberal, though there are always illiberal voices everywhere.
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We campaign to ban the lads mag but can still by the sort of knife that would make Rambo blush .... What on earth would we do with all those redundant glamour models ?? Regards
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I really don't know I thought folks had a freedom of speech thing that lets everyone write what they want too. That isn't something I would read. Not my cup of tea. hugs V
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In the history of civilization, banning things has just made people want it even more. So I say, go right ahead! Geez, I wish someone would ban my book 
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There are very few places that sell men's mags here now. Drug stores don't sell them any more plus the government made Drug stores stop selling smokes. Any food store with a pharmacy in it cannot sell smokes. Smokes cannot be on display in any store for purchase. (|they have to be concealed!
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I don't think that "you can find worse on the internet" is any defence for selling something in a supermarket. The original point that they made was asking whether children should be exposed to magazines that objectify women. I don't think that it's too controversial to say that they shouldn't (though the argument that went with it "How do I explain these images to my child?" is ridiculous - if you are a good parent then it provides an opportunity to talk about how society treats women). However, I think that selling the mags in bags, putting them on the top shelf, covering the display with opaque plastic. etc. would meet those concerns. It is clear that these extreme feminists want to kill off these mags completely. I have some sympathy with the idea that they provide a kind of vocabulary that can be used to objectify women and that they are part of a larger problem - language is fundamental to the way we describe the world and therefore in reinforcing how we interpret it (this is the chairman argument). On the other hand, while I find the mags crass and immature (and increasing so do most men), it's not my place to tell people what they should read. I would say that the fight against the objectification of women is best progressed by pointing out that it is wrong, not by making it forbidden. Finally, the biggest disappointment, and the biggest flaw in their argument, is that they haven't gone after women's magazines - these are FAR more popular than lads mags and far more damaging. The front covers of Cosmo and the like are more explicit, the content is more likely to provide some kind of unattainable aspirations: particularly damaging is the way they portray the ideal woman as effortlessly slim, sexy, multi-tasking and multi-orgasmic, and if you don't match up then there's something wrong with you. The women's magazines can often be hyper-critical of women's bodies, whereas lads mags are a joyous celebration of the female form - it might be objectification to reduce women to tits, arses and pretty faces, but at least they are real women. Unlike the air-brushed, size zero women appearing in women's magazines...
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I know this isn't answering your question, but she has a really lovely body.
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