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Online Video Article Offers Truer Reality Picture Of Swinging  

humorlife 56M  
4929 posts
4/29/2015 12:55 pm
Online Video Article Offers Truer Reality Picture Of Swinging


There’s no nudity – not even a coy side shot – in a Huffpost Live video piece on attending swing clubs titled “What Really Goes On At Sex Clubs?” Nonetheless, the four clothed panelists all offer naked slices of life regarding lifestyle events, and the result is content which rings truer than a lot of the snicker-into-your-fist depictions featured in various television programs.

The online video features four panelists, one of whom runs a club, two who attend them, and one who is a sex therapist encourages attendance by people with healthy outlooks on their sexuality.

Anchor Nancy Redd, an outsider looking in, does the swinging community a solid by mentioning the “female first” approach many in the lifestyle take. The topic itself could have been further fleshed out, but given the video’s 21:30 running time, and the variety of topics covered, that it was mentioned at all is a plus.

I won’t provide a transcript, or go much beyond hitting the highlights: The video is worth viewing. But the lifestyle comes off quite well: Kenny Blunt, who co-founded Chemistry NYC (an “erotic events” hosting operation) adroitly describes the application process for participants, and assures those unfamiliar with such events that he does his best to “avoid a creepy environment.” While I understand that he has a business to promote, I would have liked to have heard him assert more definitively that sexual play is never guaranteed – these are swing parties, not bordellos.

As it happens, others make that point, and then take the conversation beyond it. Adult films actress and sex educator Nina Hartley, who has been going to sex clubs for more than three decades, talks about the demographics changes the swinging community has undergone since she started participating. And Stephanie Sellars, a filmmaker and Chemistry NYC patron who seems to be in her late 20s/early 30s, provides another consumer’s perspective about playing as part of a couple (they play together as well as separately, and they have had a lot of conversations).

Rounding out the panel is therapist Constance Quinn, who urges participants to rely on the three Cs – communication, consent, and condoms.

The folks on this panel are generally enthusiastic about swinging, but they’re careful to note that it’s not for everyone. Presented with a question about monogamy in marriage, Sellars acknowledges that there are couples who will want to be exclusive, while others won’t.

“There are many different ways to have relationships, and to have erotic connections,” she says. “If you have erotic connections with multiple people, it doesn’t mean that you love your partner any less.”

The video presents a number of touchy issues folks in the lifestyle face. Asked about why married people might need to swing, Hartley says that “Non-monogamy isn’t better than monogamy: It either is your sexual nature or it’s not.” She also offers a most apt metaphor involving strung beads and a neck chain – beads are those swingers play with, while the chain, the person you have meals with, go to school parent-teacher meetings with, nurse through sickness, and see through tragedy, are the chain.

If I have any significant quibble with the piece, it’s with an answer Quinn gives regarding couples having problems going to sex clubs. To my ear, Quinn isn’t fast enough to say that couples with problems are probably the last people who should go to such clubs: They ain’t therapy, and most patrons don’t want to deal with the drama. The couples and single people who go to these clubs are going to have a good time, not to serve as ancillary therapist. I wish she’d hit that point harder.

But Quinn does offer a quote which sums up a lot of my own feelings about sexuality. Quoth the doctor: “The level of conversation we are having in this country still about sexual health and pleasure leaves a lot to be desired.” Right on, Dr. Quinn.

I’ve deliberately remained vague about the specifics of what each panelist says: The video offers a truer “real swingers” look than, say, A&E’s recently canceled swinger reality show. Is the video all-inclusive? Of course not. But it does offer a more realistic view into the swinging world. Aside from the subject matter, it’s a pretty standard talking heads roundup. The audio, of course, makes it very not safe for work.

In the privacy of one’s own home, it’s worth watching.

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sweet_VM 65F
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4/29/2015 12:58 pm

ty HG will have a look hugsssssssssss V

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humorlife 56M  
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4/29/2015 1:01 pm

    Quoting sweet_VM:
    ty HG will have a look hugsssssssssss V
Worth watching... let us know your reaction to it, good, bad, indifferent or otherwise. Should others invest the time?

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humorlife 56M  
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4/29/2015 4:53 pm

    Quoting  :

Worth the time, even if your curiosity is only academic. Let me know what you think!

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humorlife 56M  
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4/29/2015 4:54 pm

    Quoting Eros_Space:
    My biggest fear is to visit a sex club and find a naked couple watching TV on a couch with a remote control.
That would be my second biggest fear.My biggest fear would be that I would be in the video they were watching!

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humorlife 56M  
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4/29/2015 4:56 pm

    Quoting  :

Kzoopair mentioned that someone had... I wrote about it when it came on, and again when it was cancelled... I'm glad to find the person he was talking about, and will have to check out your post!

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humorlife 56M  
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4/29/2015 4:58 pm

    Quoting  :

On open male nights, the ratios tend to be skewed... I've known of clubs where, on couples nights, they keep the male:female ratios at 2:1... just so the males don't wear themselves out!

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
4/29/2015 7:07 pm

Thanks for this! I really enjoyed the post and the video is a good one- annoying as Nancy Redd is. I think she might be more comfortable on Entertainment Tonight.

Your quote of Constance Quinn: “The level of conversation we are having in this country still about sexual health and pleasure leaves a lot to be desired.” sums up succinctly so many of the problems we have with and about sexuality here.

Even though swinging is not our lifestyle, the subject is endlessly fascinating to me. There are so many different ways to live!

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humorlife 56M  
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4/29/2015 7:19 pm

    Quoting  :

Let me know what you think of it once you've viewed it!

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humorlife 56M  
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4/29/2015 7:20 pm

    Quoting kzoopair:
    Thanks for this! I really enjoyed the post and the video is a good one- annoying as Nancy Redd is. I think she might be more comfortable on Entertainment Tonight.

    Your quote of Constance Quinn: “The level of conversation we are having in this country still about sexual health and pleasure leaves a lot to be desired.” sums up succinctly so many of the problems we have with and about sexuality here.

    Even though swinging is not our lifestyle, the subject is endlessly fascinating to me. There are so many different ways to live!
Nancy Redd does have a tendency to vocally step on her subjects, but I give her props for keeping an open mind about the subject.

You don't have to participate in the lifestyle to be fascinated by its mores, customs, and foibles... I've been amazed at how much I enjoy writing about it!

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CUMHANDLEME 61F  
794 posts
4/29/2015 9:50 pm

Definitely on my list to read this weekend, thanks for the heads up

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petitandnaughty 113F
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4/29/2015 11:05 pm

With all it's flaws, this piece is much better than any scripted reality show. It gives some honest glimpse into lifestyle without obvious prejudice.

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Not_here2meet 55F
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4/30/2015 4:30 am

Thank you for pointing me in the direction to find it.

After watching, I can honestly say that I'm so glad I did. It was definitely accurate, I love the way Nina Hartley described the gold chain and adding beads. (I got the vision of a Pandora bracelet) And, I agree this should only be entered into in healthy relationships with common or similar ideas about sex and sexuality.

Non monogamy may not be for everyone, but it is for some.

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humorlife 56M  
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4/30/2015 5:35 am

    Quoting CUMHANDLEME:
    Definitely on my list to read this weekend, thanks for the heads up
It's a pretty easy, and fun video to watch. Let me know what you think of it!

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humorlife 56M  
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4/30/2015 5:36 am

    Quoting petitandnaughty:
    With all it's flaws, this piece is much better than any scripted reality show. It gives some honest glimpse into lifestyle without obvious prejudice.
Yes and yes and yes. It really is one of the better introductions to visiting sex clubs I've seen. Nothing's going to be perfect, but this could easily be part of an introductory package to the lifestyle...

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humorlife 56M  
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4/30/2015 5:41 am

    Quoting  :

Hosannah, hosannah, hosannah! This is exactly the sort of reaction I was hoping for, because that's exactly the sort of piece it was: A swing-positive video.

It's far from perfect, but it is a start. Hell, if folks want to pimp it as a first step in discussing visiting swing clubs, who am I to say no...

Will you be blogging on creating a poly household? It may require talking a bit more about personal details than you'd be comfortable with, but it would be an amazingly fascinating read... if nothing else, how and at what age you introduce the topic would be intriguing!

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humorlife 56M  
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4/30/2015 5:46 am

    Quoting Not_here2meet:
    Thank you for pointing me in the direction to find it.

    After watching, I can honestly say that I'm so glad I did. It was definitely accurate, I love the way Nina Hartley described the gold chain and adding beads. (I got the vision of a Pandora bracelet) And, I agree this should only be entered into in healthy relationships with common or similar ideas about sex and sexuality.

    Non monogamy may not be for everyone, but it is for some.
Saying that you thought the video was worth your time... there is no better response I could have gotten. Thank you! And yes, Nina Hartley is damned bright, and I loved her metaphor as well. Pandora bracelet? The non-jewelry-wearers among us will have to look that one up...

I've said often that the swinging community does not want to be a couple's therapy outlet...

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humorlife 56M  
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4/30/2015 8:31 am

    Quoting  :

Delighted you found it worth your time! Nancy Redd's presentation was a lot better than non-participant media folks I've seen, so I'm willing to give her at least partial kudos.

Yeah, the necklace metaphor was pretty striking -- it's a really good way to address the question of non-monogamy within committed couples.

As you explore the lifestyle, I hope you'll discuss your experiences, trepidations, and revelations on your blog.

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KItkat1415 61F  
20051 posts
5/1/2015 12:54 pm

The sex club that I have been to a few times here in San Diego was interesting.
You inspired me to write my post on this.
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humorlife 56M  
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5/1/2015 2:11 pm

    Quoting KItkat1415:
    The sex club that I have been to a few times here in San Diego was interesting.
    You inspired me to write my post on this.
    Come by and read if you like.
    It will be up in late afternoon on Friday May 1st.
    Kitkat
*laughing* Oh, Kitkat, inspiration is SO last Sunday...

Can't wait to read your post!

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humorlife 56M  
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5/2/2015 1:10 pm

    Quoting  :

Fantastic! Send me a private message here with your visit dates -- let's make a point of getting together. Looking forward to meeting you!

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humorlife 56M  
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5/2/2015 1:11 pm

    Quoting  :

Ain't that the point of it all... really glad you continue to be a regular contributor!

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aNAUGHTYmous 67F
377 posts
5/3/2015 7:22 am

many years ago what ruined a swinging club for me ( and my first approach into such) was the attitude that sex was a given when one attended. NOT a good start in the lifestyle.


humorlife 56M  
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5/3/2015 7:37 am

    Quoting aNAUGHTYmous:
    many years ago what ruined a swinging club for me ( and my first approach into such) was the attitude that sex was a given when one attended. NOT a good start in the lifestyle.
Yep, that's wrong on many levels. One, it is illegal (except in parts of Nevada) to flat-out sell the guarantee of sex. Two, the lifestyle flies on consent: No means no, women are in control, and there are no guarantees or expectations.

Management has to do a better job of setting expectations and dealing with patrons. People might argue there is a fine line -- that promoters have to tease a certain amount of participation to get people in the doors.

This approach is wrong: People knowledgable of the lifestyle know it is what they make of it. Start making guarantees, and you are pretty much engendering nasty behavior among your patrons.

Hope you've gotten over your initial experience. Have you gone back since, and if so, how have your experiences been?

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glidecc 49M  
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5/3/2015 8:20 pm

I'll check it out. Thanks! You're right that it is pretty hard to see a real representation of swinging anywhere.


humorlife 56M  
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5/3/2015 9:24 pm

    Quoting  :

Ahh, rats! Really sorry I missed you during your most recent visit here. Keep me in mind, and let's get together the next time you're in town.

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