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Critics Agree: A&E Reality Show Manages To Make Swinging Boring  

humorlife 56M  
4929 posts
3/28/2015 1:24 pm
Critics Agree: A&E Reality Show Manages To Make Swinging Boring


When a PG-13 network takes on an X-rated subject, the writers must step up and create scenarios (and dialog) that crackles, in order to replace the sex it can’t show. Unfortunately, reality shows don’t offer that level of flexibility… and even if they did, it takes a knowledgeable writer with a strong sense of nuance to bring more than superficial takes to a topic.

The critics have weighed in on the A&E network’s “Neighbors With Benefits” -- an ostensibly reality-based take on swingers in suburban Ohio -- and the show has been found wanting. In “This reality show about married swingers is crazy, but for the reason you think,” The Washington Post notes “for a ‘controversial’ show about swinging and sex, it goes an incredibly tame route. Instead of delving into scandalous topics, it chooses to focus much of its first episode on swinger etiquette. Because that’s what viewers really want to know when they tune in to this kind of show, right? Rules and regulations.”

To step back, rules and regulations and etiquette are important in swinging. Without ‘em, this potentially emotionally charged activity can devolve into a lot of bruised egos, busted relationships, and even the occasional broken nose. But people -- singles and couples alike -- don’t get into swinging for the drama: They get into it because they enjoy this type of variant sex, and “Neighbors With Benefits” seems to skimp on the enjoyment part.

As for the rules themselves, another review, on Variety’s site (“TV Review: Neighbors with Benefits”), claims that “The premiere... doesn’t even do a particularly good job of laying out the rules, such as they are.” Variety adds that “the real takeaway is just another reminder that attempts to conjure drama with reality shows often feel pretty pallid next to their scripted counterparts.”

That sounds about right. Most people know that the axiom that truth is stranger than fiction. And that can be correct, if one focuses on the occasional<b> bizarre </font></b>bit of truth. But when one considers a randomly chosen half-hour or hour, a TV show can pack in a lot more strangeness -- and, therefore, entertainment -- than true life. Or, as a friend is fond of saying, “If you want realism, go down to the corner and watch traffic.”

Entertainment Weekly’s Gillian Telling takes a swing at encapsulating the rules -- at least, the rules she was able to glean as a result of watching the program, as opposed to any true rules about swinging which were clearly stated.

As part of her review, “Neighbors With Benefits react: Reality swinging is (no surprise) cringe-worthy,” the rules she offers range from the valid (“Condoms are a must”) to the catty (“If you are a woman and go to a swingers party in suburban Ohio, you have to wear a tube top”) to the ignorant (“Unless you are really, really drunk and at a party with other really drunk people, this lifestyle is mostly just awkward and uncomfortable”) to the truly worthy of consideration (“Swinging is hard. Almost everyone on the show admits the lifestyle is not easy to get into or sustain”).

Telling knows damned well “Neighbors With Benefits” artificially plays up the drama. Why else would she highlight the presence of characters “staunchly opposed to the lifestyle, like...Mark, who looks like a bearded Brooklyn hipster and is into Jesus, and his cute wife Aimee who wants nothing to do with it.”

Side note: These bluenoses’ presence strikes me as artificially contrived as well. At minimum, it’s an example of the United States Federal Communications Commission’s Fairness Doctrine, which requires broadcasters to “both present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that was, in the “ to both present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that was, in the Commission's view, honest, equitable and balanced.” I want equal time to show the positive, pleasurable aspects of swinging on “The 700 Club.”

Most damning of all is Telling’s observation that “While any married couple [the show focuses on couples, thereby eliminating a significant portion of the swinging community] might understand the need for some variety or excitement in the bedroom after a while, something about “‘Neighbors With Benefits’ ends up being a real turn off from ‘the lifestyle.’”

Those wanting to be sure to be busy when “Neighbors With Benefits” airs should avoid the A&E network on Sundays at 10 p.m. ET -- at least for the near future.

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bigboystwo2 53M

3/28/2015 1:42 pm

boring?


petitandnaughty 113F
9755 posts
3/28/2015 1:43 pm

Reality shows are not something that I like to watch. That show was not an exception - I didn't watch it and don't intend to do so.

There was TV show "Swing Town" (or something to that effect) on one of the prime time networks, a few years back. It was cancelled after one season because it ran out of drama the show tried to portray as part of the swinging lifestyle.

Until and unless a swinger, that lives the lifestyle, is at the helm of such shows, they will always project only negativity towards the lifestyle, imo.

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humorlife 56M  
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3/28/2015 1:48 pm

Takes a special talent to accomplish that, methinks... or did you mean my post? Hah!

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humorlife 56M  
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3/28/2015 1:55 pm

    Quoting petitandnaughty:
    Reality shows are not something that I like to watch. That show was not an exception - I didn't watch it and don't intend to do so.

    There was TV show "Swing Town" (or something to that effect) on one of the prime time networks, a few years back. It was cancelled after one season because it ran out of drama the show tried to portray as part of the swinging lifestyle.

    Until and unless a swinger, that lives the lifestyle, is at the helm of such shows, they will always project only negativity towards the lifestyle, imo.
"Until and unless..." You're absolutely right. They may not portray swinging negatively, but they will have a lot more trouble portraying it with nuance, and with the insiders' point of view that allows for truly quality writing.

Fairly often, shows that have alcoholic characters at their forefront have at least one creator/co-creator who has confronted demon rum him/herself. But this is not an absolute: I doubt Vince Gilligan distributed high-quality naughty products (I don't feel like wrestling with the site censors) before penning "Breaking Bad."

But the gigglers, or at least the non-participants, seem to have had control of the swinging-related programs, and "Swingtown" was apparently a victim of that.

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jadesmith69 55F
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3/28/2015 1:58 pm

you know in a strange way i totally understand... when i was writing my book and trying to get help i had some interested by mainstream publishers (the kind that charge you to publish anything) and they always asked me if i could write it in the same sense of "50 shades" leaving only innuendo in the place of description...
but even more striking to me is the fact that at the end of an "exchange with the neighbors" i find myself waking through events as if it were all a dream. i cant even find a way to describe the surreal feeling i have with every possible word and phrase at my disposal there is no way i could do it with appropriate words... thank you for sharing

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humorlife 56M  
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3/28/2015 2:15 pm

    Quoting  :

Thank you for the insider's view into "reality" TV... they "ain't my cup of meat" (as Bob Dylan sang. I'm not sure there's much TV that is truly reality-based, saved perhaps for sports...

You and petitandnaughty and I are in agreement, it seems, about needing some swinger consultants on shows like this... but that would require someone articulate who wants to publicly be known as a swinger.

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humorlife 56M  
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3/28/2015 2:21 pm

For whatever reason, the site is not letting me respond directly to jadesmith69, so here's my response:

The "50 Shades" request represents something slightly different... ultimately, many media producers (book publishers, record companies, movie studios) are cowards. They want to produce something similar to that which has already sold, as opposed to something truly groundbreaking which would have to find its own market.

Stick to your guns, and write your own stories in your own voice. And stick to your word processor as well... with time, practice, and the help of a really good editor, the words will come, and they will be very, very satisfying.

You make an interesting point about post-encounter feelings being akin to trying to remember dreams... perhaps it would be an interesting exercise for you to read more about how people describe dreams, in hopes of adding a few more vocabulary words?

And... don't worry about appropriate words. Sometimes it's better to get the inappropriate words down on page, as opposed to waiting for the appropriate ones!

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humorlife 56M  
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3/28/2015 2:35 pm

    Quoting  :

Ah, you're on that site, too? I wonder how many of us are joint members... what a pity the 7 subway line in NYC doesn't stretch to California! Maybe with the next extension...

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humorlife 56M  
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3/28/2015 5:09 pm

    Quoting kzoopair:
    There IS some good television...not much, but almost enough. This is the medium that gave us "Amish Mafia" for the love of God! I didn't have to watch that one. At least they had the good taste to make the title so fucking ludicrously disgusting that it was like a pile of dog shit in the street with a neon arrow pointing to it. Most TV sucks and but at least has a florescent arrow warning viewers. There is no accounting for taste. My stepson loved gory movies..and they had to have blood and guts. He thought "Psycho" was boring. I had a very nice daughter in law, to all appearances quite bright, who LOVED watching Nancy Grace! Can you wrap your brain around that bit of masochism?! Nancy Grace is what would be served up in a hell specially constructed just to torture me for all eternity. I feel like a stranger in a strange land.
I have a feeling the trope "pile of dog shit with a neon sign pointing at it" is going to prove extremely useful when discussing television during the next few years... and "Amish Mafia" is a perfect example.

While I hadn't had a chance to watch the current A&E show myself -- a flaw in this, granted, but this is a review of a review, reflecting how people react to having swinging, um, thrown in their face.

But yes, there is some good television out there... and it's the television that treats a series season as a 12- or 16-hour movie. Again, Breaking Bad, The Walking Dead, The Wire and so forth/

As for your stepson who did not appreciate "Psycho"... love the sinner, hate the sin. And hack him to death in the shower when nobody's looking.

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sweet_VM 65F
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3/28/2015 9:45 pm

I am not into reality shows. MyBe they should hire you to consult. You would make a good one. Hugs V

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petitandnaughty 113F
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3/28/2015 10:11 pm

    Quoting  :

Are the no swingers in Riverside? Men (on SLS) from your area often ask me to events.

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CookiesNMischief 38M

3/28/2015 10:55 pm

While there has been in some form or another a version of reality TV placed upon the unsuspecting public, I would have to thank MTV for the need to push augmented reality to the forefront of social phenomenon. Without such classics as Real World: San Francisco and Road Rules, would the Kardashians ever grace our presence? Now the watered down versions of tantalizing and taboo subjects are becoming a commonplace theme to push the so-called boundaries of acceptable television.

I gave up on those notions long ago; finding substance in such trivial watches is even harder to bear. Avoidance at all cost.

As for the mutual feelings toward this kind of television?

I agree with everyone else when I say, "Yawn..."


humorlife 56M  
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3/29/2015 1:11 pm

    Quoting sweet_VM:
    I am not into reality shows. MyBe they should hire you to consult. You would make a good one. Hugs V
Heh... if they meet my fee, they can have me... the trick would be respecting the "what happens in the lifestyle stays in the lifestyle" commandment... and at any rate, I'm not sure truth would be dramatic enough.

That said, interested producers should feel free to contact me with retainer amounts.

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humorlife 56M  
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3/29/2015 1:12 pm

    Quoting petitandnaughty:
    Are the no swingers in Riverside? Men (on SLS) from your area often ask me to events.
Heh. And the lifestyle cross-pollenates...

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humorlife 56M  
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3/29/2015 1:13 pm

    Quoting CookiesNMischief:
    While there has been in some form or another a version of reality TV placed upon the unsuspecting public, I would have to thank MTV for the need to push augmented reality to the forefront of social phenomenon. Without such classics as Real World: San Francisco and Road Rules, would the Kardashians ever grace our presence? Now the watered down versions of tantalizing and taboo subjects are becoming a commonplace theme to push the so-called boundaries of acceptable television.

    I gave up on those notions long ago; finding substance in such trivial watches is even harder to bear. Avoidance at all cost.

    As for the mutual feelings toward this kind of television?

    I agree with everyone else when I say, "Yawn..."
Why do I suddenly have the urge to play the Dead Kennedys' "MTV Get Off The Air" very, very loudly?

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Myfav416 101F
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3/29/2015 6:11 pm

Since I don't watch reality TV shows, I've never heard of "Neighbors with Benefits". Now I'm curious.


humorlife 56M  
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3/29/2015 8:21 pm

    Quoting Myfav416:
    Since I don't watch reality TV shows, I've never heard of "Neighbors with Benefits". Now I'm curious.
Let us know what you think!

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humorlife 56M  
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3/30/2015 5:29 am

    Quoting  :

You've managed to say the only positive thing about the show I've read -- the bit about spouses being pressured! Both of you are wise and experienced enough to know that a pressured spouse is not a happy swinger... so if this gives an out to those folks, that's good, I guess...

Of course -- as the two of you also know -- it would be awfully nice to have a show that touts the lifestyle's positive benefits...

Oh, and "farce" takes some brains to write. If "Neighbors With Benefits" were a farce, it might actually be tolerable. Sigh.

Good to have the two of you back! Missed you!

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humorlife 56M  
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3/30/2015 5:31 am

    Quoting  :

Congratulations on cutting the cable... but if you're going to satisfy your curiosity about something, why not make it a good show? I'm rather fond of "The Walking Dead," myself...

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humorlife 56M  
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3/30/2015 4:56 pm

    Quoting  :

I absolutely understand wanting to watch things one normally wouldn't or couldn't do oneself. This is the reason why I watch professional baseball!

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kzoopair 73M/71F
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3/30/2015 6:23 pm

    Quoting humorlife:
    I have a feeling the trope "pile of dog shit with a neon sign pointing at it" is going to prove extremely useful when discussing television during the next few years... and "Amish Mafia" is a perfect example.

    While I hadn't had a chance to watch the current A&E show myself -- a flaw in this, granted, but this is a review of a review, reflecting how people react to having swinging, um, thrown in their face.

    But yes, there is some good television out there... and it's the television that treats a series season as a 12- or 16-hour movie. Again, Breaking Bad, The Walking Dead, The Wire and so forth/

    As for your stepson who did not appreciate "Psycho"... love the sinner, hate the sin. And hack him to death in the shower when nobody's looking.
Great answer! I nearly peed! You get a gold star for this one!

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humorlife 56M  
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3/30/2015 8:31 pm

    Quoting apollorising2021:
    I have not been a big fan of reality shows because I think most of them lack imagination which I believe is the fuel that human inspiration runs on in this world!
Storytelling is an art... and reality TV goes more for a combination of shock and the ability to look down on participants than actual creativity.

As for "Neighbors With Benefits"... eh, maybe the DVD extras will prove more entertaining/enlightening?

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VerandahPoly 80M  
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4/4/2015 2:02 am

    Quoting humorlife:
    I absolutely understand wanting to watch things one normally wouldn't or couldn't do oneself. This is the reason why I watch professional baseball!
But in this game, video of the amateurs is often more enciting than video of professionals. The amateurs care!


humorlife 56M  
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4/4/2015 3:12 am

    Quoting VerandahPoly:
    But in this game, video of the amateurs is often more enciting than video of professionals. The amateurs care!
*Laughing* An excellent point, but I've always been a sucker for production values...

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VerandahPoly 80M  
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4/10/2015 3:19 am

    Quoting humorlife:
    *Laughing* An excellent point, but I've always been a sucker for production values...
But given a reasonable production value, there's nothing like a lady thoroughly enjoying a cocksicle she cares about.


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