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Doctor Finds Drugs and Swing Parties are Contraindicated  

humorlife 56M  
4929 posts
3/20/2015 5:56 am
Doctor Finds Drugs and Swing Parties are Contraindicated


Here’s one that ain’t gonna make the alumni notes: A Howard University-graduated doctor got busted for violating one of swing party hosting’s chief rules. Y’see, swinging may be legal, but drug and alcohol laws still apply. And law enforcement agencies will cheerfully use those laws to shutter legal activities they consider icky.

I’ll get to the tale of the Las Vegas-area orthopedic surgeon whose swinger events allegedly featured some extremely non-prescription pharmaceuticals in a moment. But first, a story shared by a different swing club operator. Seems that a male patron was boasting about someone he’d introduced to the lifestyle: A lovely 20-year-old woman who was absolutely game for anything. The male patron proceeded to delineate exactly what “everything” entailed.

“That’s fine,” the swing club operator replied. “But if she’s under 21, I’ll tell you one thing she’s not going to do in my club, and that’s drink.”

That’s a story Andrew Scott Martin – the orthopedic surgeon mentioned above – probably should have heard before he started hosting what the Las Vegas Review Journal called “themed sex parties that attracted hundreds of people who snorted cocaine, swallowed pills and smoked marijuana,” according to an article titled Local doctor threw drug, sex parties at his Henderson, Nevada home.

(Side note: Hundreds? Yikers! The sprawling estates of Henderson (a bedroom suburb of Las Vegas) may offer a lot of square footage, but a party that size requires a lot of room for people to congregate standing up – never mind floor or mattress space for those wishing to pleasantly flop around a bit.)

This isn’t Martin’s first brush with the law: In late 2014, the Nevada Board of Medical Examiners suspended his practice for two months after police found cocaine, hallucinogenic mushrooms, marijuana and ecstasy. For shame, doc: A house capable of hosting hundreds of swingers should come with a few good nooks and crannies suitable for hiding one’s stash…

So what happened this time ‘round? According to the Las Vegas Review-Journal, “a confidential informant years ago told police about the ‘adult-type parties’ rife with all kinds of narcotics.”

But the police had trouble gaining access to the parties (despite, again, “hundreds” of participants facing no such hurdles) until late 2013, when undercover agents “snagged an invite to a ‘Frost and Furs’ party at Martin’s Henderson home,” according to the Review-Journal.

“The undercover cops, who would follow the doctor for months, played along with the winter theme of the event, dressing in furs, and attended as a couple,” the Review-Journal added.

The officers claim that at that party, they were offered MDMA by both the good doctor himself (“to get you loose,” Martin allegedly said) as well as by another attendee. They were also presented with a gift line of cocaine, which they scooped into a napkin and stashed for evidence.

The doctor, along with several other individuals who allegedly proffered drugs, are awaiting a November trial date.

Not much to add to this story: It’s a sad one, on many levels. Never mind the doctor – he sounds like a yutz, to put it mildly. But of the other seven people arrested, a few seem to have history of drug problems. (Incidentally, only two of the other seven were charged with sale: The rest are simple possession … compounded by being stupid – i.e. in a high-risk environment, in many senses of the phrase.)

The abovementioned anonymous swing club operator – the one who was all set to bar an drinker for drinking – had posted a bumper sticker above the mirror in one of the bathrooms in his club. The sticker itself read “SAY NO TO drugS” Under it, someone had used a Sharpie to add the word “HERE.”

Sound advice. Worth teaching in medical schools, perhaps?

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
3/20/2015 9:12 am

Undercover cops spent months on this guy? Are there no pedestrians in the community to molest or harass? This sounds like the perfect place to open a doughnut shop. Clearly they have time on their hands. Model railroading is a nice hobby.....

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humorlife 56M  
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3/20/2015 9:18 am

    Quoting kzoopair:
    Undercover cops spent months on this guy? Are there no pedestrians in the community to molest or harass? This sounds like the perfect place to open a doughnut shop. Clearly they have time on their hands. Model railroading is a nice hobby.....
Who knows? Perhaps the legal brothels were getting annoyed by the competition for people's sexual activity (caveat, caveat, there is -- or, at least, should be -- no correlation between swinging and prostitution) or perhaps the police were going after a much bigger drug score than they apparently got, based on the charges...

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KItkat1415 61F  
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3/20/2015 1:28 pm

Ugh. None of the places where I have attended swinging parties or at the sex club I used to go to, had any drugs available and had to bring our own alcohol to the club (no alcohol was allowed at the swinging parties to be consumed on the premises).
You would think people would just know better.
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lyre_lyre 54F
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3/20/2015 3:23 pm

As a former resident and unabashed Vegas hater, I can tell you that the officers who snagged that gig were not going to wrap it up quickly. Undercover work racks up some serious overtime.


jadesmith69 55F
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3/21/2015 2:17 pm

you know i have never really needed drugs to enhance my experience.. perhaps its that they don't alter me enough to make it worth the loss of control but i think that if one needs drugs or excess drink to make it possible for them to "play" perhaps they are not yet ready to "play"
don't get me wrong i am all for freedom of choice and letting everything go but if you need to be wasted to get into the hump then perhaps conquering of insecurities should be pursued before the night of the party.
and What of all the ADULTS that "gave into peer pressure" where is the line of accountability for them...

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humorlife 56M  
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3/21/2015 6:28 pm

    Quoting KItkat1415:
    Ugh. None of the places where I have attended swinging parties or at the sex club I used to go to, had any drugs available and had to bring our own alcohol to the club (no alcohol was allowed at the swinging parties to be consumed on the premises).
    You would think people would just know better.
    Kk
Not sure how the law works regarding BYOB and clubs... but drugs are definitely a no-no for an activity that attracts bluenoses who want to shut it down (despite claims, as I've written about earlier, that such clubs can offer economic boons for small communities.)

As for people knowing better... really? You live in a different country than I do? People individually can be pretty terrific... but en masse quickly sink to the lowest common deonominator. Which usually means stupidity reigns. Sigh.

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humorlife 56M  
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3/21/2015 6:30 pm

    Quoting lyre_lyre:
    As a former resident and unabashed Vegas hater, I can tell you that the officers who snagged that gig were not going to wrap it up quickly. Undercover work racks up some serious overtime.
And, let's face it, this was a pretty cushy detail. Chances are there was little threat in the investigative phase (although I think one of the alleged perpetrators did have a gun charged leveled against him). But... going to a swing party -- or, according to the accounts, a series of swing parties -- and just hanging out?

Hell, I'll go through the academy for that...

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humorlife 56M  
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3/21/2015 6:31 pm

    Quoting  :

And maybe the sky is blue and the sea is wet, hm, Buni?

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humorlife 56M  
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3/21/2015 6:34 pm

    Quoting jadesmith69:
    you know i have never really needed drugs to enhance my experience.. perhaps its that they don't alter me enough to make it worth the loss of control but i think that if one needs drugs or excess drink to make it possible for them to "play" perhaps they are not yet ready to "play"
    don't get me wrong i am all for freedom of choice and letting everything go but if you need to be wasted to get into the hump then perhaps conquering of insecurities should be pursued before the night of the party.
    and What of all the ADULTS that "gave into peer pressure" where is the line of accountability for them...
Yes. Simply... yes. Playing should be done with a clear head, for a number of reasons... as you point out, having to cloud one's perceptions may, in fact, mean that someone isn't ready... or that someone will do something he/she isn't up for.

Swinging is something that folks should entertain only after a fair amount of soul searching... because of the baggage put on sexual activity, it can be (for better or worse -- probably worse) an emotionally fraught activity.

*Sigh* And once again, I am sad to say that the French are laughing at us over this -- the sex part, not the drugs part.

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humorlife 56M  
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3/21/2015 6:37 pm

    Quoting kathynj:
    I am just amazed. I have never done illegal drugs. I drink, but could probably take it or leave it. It's frightening to think of a surgeon using so many and such addictive drugs. Even if he doesn't come to surgery under the influence, wouldn't all those substances affect him or impair him? Scary thought, makes you wonder what your doctors are like in their private lives and wondering how much spills over into their practice of medicine.
This doctor does sound like a winner, doesn't he? While I would no more judge the medical profession by this yahoo than I would the journalism by , say, Stephen Glass, Jayson Blair, or Janet Cooke, this guy was screwing around directly with people's health.

Incidentally, he had been on probation for drug abuse before, and had been required to give hair and urine samples... I wonder if that was why he kept his head shaved bald? Can't account for the urine, though...

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humorlife 56M  
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3/21/2015 7:21 pm

    Quoting  :

In this particular case, I think there were seven or eight dumbasses, but your point is well taken!

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sweet_VM 65F
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3/21/2015 8:29 pm

Wow this was a big story. I have never used drug nor will I. When some thing is going good it seems some ass messes it up for everyone. Great post hugs V

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humorlife 56M  
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3/21/2015 8:39 pm

    Quoting sweet_VM:
    Wow this was a big story. I have never used drug nor will I. When some thing is going good it seems some ass messes it up for everyone. Great post hugs V
The article didn't go into whether dealing drugs was a major source of income for those involved (it doesn't seem to be, but there's an upcoming trial which will doubless yield more information.)

Said it before, will say so again: Sex clubs are (stupidly, to my mind, as they are legal businesses) subject to special scrutiny, both by community members and by law enforcement. Going to operate one? Keep your nose clean.

Thank you!

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