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"heads on a pike" part 2 - the other side  

thikhead 67M
530 posts
2/10/2020 6:16 pm
"heads on a pike" part 2 - the other side


while chancellor trump is firing those who didnt work with him,
heres whats happening with another one who did work with him,

courtesy of ASSOCIATED PRESS (AP) -

WASHINGTON (AP) — Federal prosecutors are asking a judge to sentence President Donald Trump's confidant Roger Stone to serve between 7 and 9 years in prison after his conviction on witness tampering and obstruction charges.

Stone, who is scheduled to be sentenced next week, was convicted in November of a seven-count indictment that accused him of lying to Congress, tampering with a witness and obstructing the House investigation into whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia to tip the 2016 election.
He was the sixth Trump aide or adviser to be convicted of charges brought as part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation.


"well only get through this if we work together. if we dont, none of us will"


Tmptrzz 61F  
107039 posts
2/26/2020 3:21 pm

Roger Stone should not get preferential treatment he needs to serve his time just like all the other people convicted of wrong doing for helping the POTUS and if he gets pardoned..just so wrong!!!

Seduce the mind and see what a wonderful adventure the body will take you on..


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
2/20/2020 4:16 pm

[heathen] - No they're not. Maybe the sentence will be commuted, because 9 years is extreme.

...........

So looks like he may be getting 3 yrs and 4 months... that's reasonable .


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
2/14/2020 3:43 pm

"PARANOID HORSEY NUTCASE"?.... Yes, that he is.

"no threat"? - President Trump is only a threat to Socialist, Communist, and Democrats, or any other body that threatens the US , including the Marxist who want to maintain Political Correctness... About damn time we got rid of that socially crippling concept.

"cleaning house"? - Common or not, the President is allowed to add or replace at anytime. I really don't care if he insults or degrades some, on their way out. I really like this President.


"horsey nutcase"? - Yep .. very insulting. Good.

"bonehead"? - yet again, yet another INSULT. ... Correct.

"only illegal immigrants"? - not true, he has passed many laws that aim to degrade LEGAL immigrants status, including stripping them of green cards ... By 50 percent. And that's okay. We would not be the only country turning away legal immigrants. .. Also putting in place, travel bands from certain countries... I agree with that, too.

"fake news / lies"? ...Yes , fake news. Biased reporting of events, or even not covering an event.

"pro-democratic press"? ... Yes, the democrats and the media scratch each others back. some not all.

"sanders and national socialist workers party"? ...Yes, a very real threat to this country.

"violence"? - Don't mess with the 2nd amendment. Instead focus on mental health improvements.

"2024"? ....The Republican Party is going to take that one, too.

Maybe you can take knee next to that wailing lesbian and comfort each other in November of 2020 and 2024.....and maybe even 2028.


thikhead 67M
3346 posts
2/14/2020 12:21 pm

"PARANOID HORSEY NUTCASE"?
again, you lead off with an INSULT. no surprise, just disappointing

"no threat"? - BLIND DENIAL of tomes of evidence

"cleaning house"? - partially true, many new administrations do stock their own staffs and cabinets at the beginning of their term.
whats not common, though, is to fire so many mid-term in revenge for doing what the constitution guided them that they should do,
and INSULTING and DEGRADING them on the way out.

"horsey nutcase"? - again, as above, clearly an INSULT.
again, not surprising, just disappointing.

"bonehead"? - yet again, yet another INSULT. and again, not surprising, just disappointing.

"only illegal immigrants"? - not true, he has passed many laws that aim to degrade LEGAL immigrants status, including stripping them of green cards for even a simple misspelling on their renewals with no appeal. misspelling? really? ever read his tweets?

"fake news / lies"? and yet the press reports (and unfortunately in the process repeats) every insulting, degrading, misinforming or even lying tweet of his as if it was worthy news. would a "biased" news do that?

"pro-democratic press"? again, no. not being pro-trump does not make it pro-democratic. they report what happens. if he thinks their coverage of him is negative, maybe he should cut back on doing negative things.

"sanders and national socialist workers party"? NO WAY, sanders is nowhere near nazi. in fact, even the communists fought the nazis. if anything social is so bad, does that mean youll refuse to collect social security in a few years?
at best, your comment is yet another boorish INSULT.

"violence"? - ok thats a tie, violence IS everywhere, and social posts of insults and degradation make it even worse. right now, i think trump holds the lead in that category. not to mention fighting gun control issues categorically, but make no mistake, thats just because it gets him votes. but at what cost?

"2024"? dont count your chickenshit yet, he still has to overcome the growing public backlash from his growing list of questionable, if not criminal, actions if hes to steal 2020 like he stole 2016.

eventually, enough of his brainwashed robot minions
will see through his darkness and embrace the light.
i hope one day,
even you will unlock your brains shackles and open up your mind.

stop pre-answering the issues with rehearsed scripts of denials and insults
supplied by your talking head.
try actually thinking about them from both sides for a change.

i know you can do it.

"well only get through this if we work together. if we dont, none of us will"


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
2/14/2020 2:44 am

My response, to your response to the paranoid horsey nutcase

its about recognizing the threat he is to our country and the world - ... He is no threat to either.

hitler "cleansed" government of any who disagreed with him,
just as trump has done, is doing, and will continue to do
..... Every Administration since after President George Washington, has cleaned house , and replaced with people who agree with his Administrative agenda.

(only difference is trump hasnt killed anyone . . . yet). .... Oh , way to send horsey nutcase over the edge.

trump has done the same thing with immigrants,... C'mon , don't be a bonehead. Trump is against ILLEGAL immigration. If you are here legally , you're good.

hitler launched 'lügenpresse', or "lying press", to discredit and even censor ..... And today, in the United States of America, President Trump points out this very same style of press. Fake News. Lies.

trump has branded the press "fake news" .... For good reason. Because there is media that is pro Democratic. This means those media lie, censor, or doesn't even cover what President Trump does for this country. Instead spreads false statements , in favor of the Democrats.

Bernie Sanders is really much more closer to the Nazi regime...if Sanders gets voted in as President, we will be looking at a National Socialist Workers Party of the Divided States

(and even commit violence against) anyone deemed to be "against" them, .... After Trump became President, the Democrats committed violence , and still do, against Trump supporters.

how many of you will disown trump once hes no longer in power? ... You mean after 2024? I will not.


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
2/14/2020 12:57 am

    Quoting thikhead:
    STILL FIGHTING THE BLIZZARD OF BALONEY

    not a racist?
    like hell. even just his "shithole countries" comment alone shows his stripes.
    how many more examples do you need - theres plenty to choose from.

    whered I get possible maximum of 50 years?
    law professor blog network, among others:
    Stone was found guilty of seven charges: one count of obstruction of an official proceeding, five counts of false statements and one count of witness tampering. The maximum penalty for all counts totals 50 years in prison, though first-time offenders generally receive significantly lower sentences.
    the point is 7 - 9 its already "significantly lower" and so hardly "unreasonable".

    "nonsense?" - thats a typical trumpist response - denying the facts you were already presented with, offering none of your own, and instead offering an insult.

    and you still insist on insulting the impeachment as a hoax and lies when even some of the senators admit what trump did was wrong.
    trying him was appropriate, the senate blocking witnesses and testimony
    was the travesty. if he wasnt guilty, why was there a coverup?

    as far as trumps comments, even if heads on a pike wasnt exactly word-for-word true (even though CBS NEWS attributed it to a TRUMP CONFIDANT),
    its clear that all his comments together COMBINED with the FIRINGS make it clear what his intent is and always has been. you only dont acknowledge it because youre not in a position trump could fire YOU from.

    and so the broken record that is trumps supporters
    just keeps on mindlessly repeating.

    are you a criminal attorney by any chance?
    shame you wont use your sneaky craftiness for good instead of evil
..not a racist? ... Not a racist.

like hell. even just his "shithole countries" comment alone shows his stripes. ..... No it doesn't . Quit being so sensitive.

"referred to Haiti, El Salvador, and an assortment of African nations as “shithole countries” during a closed-door meeting with congressional leaders and Cabinet members in January" [of 2017] .......That comment doesn't make him a racist. You need to man up a bit. more.

whered I get possible maximum of 50 years?
law professor blog network, among others:
... No... you just said that out of prejudiced anger.

Stone was found guilty of seven charges: .... Over a hoax. Something not really there. Also:
"The juror in question, Tomeka Hart, reportedly stated Wednesday that she was the foreperson and defended federal prosecutors who recommended up to nine years in prison for Stone, only to withdraw from the case after senior DOJ officials submitted a new filing that recommended a lighter sentence. Soon afterward, her history of Democratic activism and a string of her anti-Trump, left-wing social media posts came to light."

If they don't retry the case, with a new Jury..... the lesser sentence is best.


and you still insist on insulting the impeachment as a hoax and lies ... That is correct. It was all based on nothing. Total waste of tax payers money.

when even some of the senators admit what trump did was wrong..... That is there opinion. Doing something different than they would, is not an impeachable offense.

trying him was appropriate, the senate blocking witnesses and testimony
was the travesty.
.... Nonsense.. there was 17 "Witnesses".. who really "Witnessed nothing".
Congress [albeit partisan] investigated [but rather made some thing out of nothing]...
It went to the House of Representatives... it went to the Senate.... Articles 1 and 2 .. NAYS against impeachment was the result.

if he wasnt guilty, why was there a coverup? ... There was no cover up...The Democrats would have you think there was, but there wasn't . Just more nonsense.

as far as trumps comments, even if heads on a pike wasnt exactly word-for-word true (even though CBS NEWS attributed it to a TRUMP CONFIDANT), ... All nonsense. Totally made up , just like Schiff making up dialog. Lying in Congress. There's your crime.

its clear that all his comments together COMBINED with the FIRINGS make it clear what his intent is and always has been. ... When something is not there, you can not say , "It's clear".... and as the President he can fire and replace anyone, at any time in his Administration. Obama did, so did other Presidents.

and so the broken record that is trumps supporters
just keeps on mindlessly repeating.
... C'mon , be a good sport, the Do-Nothing-Democrats lost 2016.....and have been threatening impeachment 19 minutes after President D.J.Trump took office. ...Now listen up ... Congress can not impeach a sitting President because they don't like him....especially , ESPECIALLY, A PARTISAN GROUP.

The Democrats will just have to wait for 2024, and try again to get a Dem President.... but I really don't see that happening then, either. History is going to record the Democratic Party from 2016 to 2024, and very likely beyond 2024 , as underhanded and disgraceful to their Office. This nonsense the Dems are doing does not make this United States look strong....................perhaps that's is the plan [all along] of the sore losers..


thikhead 67M
3346 posts
2/13/2020 8:55 am

STILL FIGHTING THE BLIZZARD OF BALONEY

not a racist?
like hell. even just his "shithole countries" comment alone shows his stripes.
how many more examples do you need - theres plenty to choose from.

whered I get possible maximum of 50 years?
law professor blog network, among others:
Stone was found guilty of seven charges: one count of obstruction of an official proceeding, five counts of false statements and one count of witness tampering. The maximum penalty for all counts totals 50 years in prison, though first-time offenders generally receive significantly lower sentences.

the point is 7 - 9 its already "significantly lower" and so hardly "unreasonable".

"nonsense?" - thats a typical trumpist response - denying the facts you were already presented with, offering none of your own, and instead offering an insult.

and you still insist on insulting the impeachment as a hoax and lies when even some of the senators admit what trump did was wrong.
trying him was appropriate, the senate blocking witnesses and testimony
was the travesty. if he wasnt guilty, why was there a coverup?

as far as trumps comments, even if heads on a pike wasnt exactly word-for-word true (even though CBS NEWS attributed it to a TRUMP CONFIDANT),
its clear that all his comments together COMBINED with the FIRINGS make it clear what his intent is and always has been. you only dont acknowledge it because youre not in a position trump could fire YOU from.

and so the broken record that is trumps supporters
just keeps on mindlessly repeating.

are you a criminal attorney by any chance?
shame you wont use your sneaky craftiness for good instead of evil

"well only get through this if we work together. if we dont, none of us will"


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
2/13/2020 3:08 am

    Quoting thikhead:
    IN RESPONSE TO HEATHEN -

    [me] - and now even the DOJ is cowering before him regarding the stone case....

    [heathen] - No they're not. Maybe the sentence will be commuted, because 9 years is extreme.

    FACT - maximum sentence for the crimes he was committed of could have been 50 years.

    in your honest opinion
    (as if you could have one - although i still believe maybe someday you could),

    do you think a black man doing the same for a democrat would have only gotten 5 - 7?

    AND have trump very publicly decry that?

    and make no mistake, based on his recent actions,
    tweeted disapproval DOES carry an implicit threat,
    as shown by how quickly the DOJ jumped in fear
Don't make this about skin color. Our President is not racist, and I'm not going to get into a "What if" pretend scenario . We had enough of "Pretend" from Adam Schiff.

FACT - maximum sentence for the crimes he was committed of could have been 50 years. ... I don't know how you came up with "50 years".

DOES carry an implicit threat, as shown by how quickly the DOJ jumped in fear ... Nonsense. Moving on.....

Quote: 1...."Federal prosecutors are urging Roger Stone be sent to prison for about seven to nine years for his conviction on charges of lying and witness tampering during investigations of ties between Russia and the Trump campaign. Stone's defense team suggests that he should be sentenced to probation — and no jail time — in the case. ....."

Quote 2...[President Trump said:] "This is a horrible and very unfair situation," Trump tweeted. ... That's not a threat.

Quote 3...[President Trump said:]"The real crimes were on the other side, as nothing happens to them. Cannot allow this miscarriage of justice!" .... That's a fact. Not a threat. That's not striking fear into the DOJ - as you do dramatically stated. But perhaps striking , "Reconsideration".

Quote 4...[President Trump said:] “So they now convict Roger Stone of lying and want to jail him for many years to come, well, what about Crooked Hillary, Comey, Strzok, Page, McCabe, Brennan, Clapper, Shifty Schiff, Ohr & Nellie, Steele & all of the others, including even Mueller himself? Didn’t they lie?” ......Yes , they certainly did lie. Schiff lied right to the public and Congress. That's an obvious crime.

Quote 5....[Stones Prosecution said:] ""Roger Stone and Randy Credico engaged in an ongoing dialogue in which each used harsh language as a matter of course and it was understood between them that, as Randy Credico put it, it was 'all bark and no bite.'""" .....Meaning that these two men verbally jousted often and Credico did not feel actually threatened. Randy Credico, at the trial, stated, " Stone's commented threats were taken as hyperbole".

Quote 6...[From source;] Prosecutors say federal sentencing guidelines urge between 87 to 108 months in prison for Stone........ The defense disputes several aspects of that calculation and argues that the guidelines call for just 15 to 21 months. .......Judges have the right to sentence above or below the guidelines, but are required to calculate the recommended sentence and take it into account.

--------------

So given that information, I can certainly understand if Stones judgement is commuted down considerably more. Now we'll see [hopefully] how much sentencing, the other side gets. Because it was all hoaxes and lies from the Democrats. Wasting millions upon millions of tax payers money, which we'll be dishing out by April. I don't want to hear of any of these public servants getting a pay raise. If they did, that would warrant a public outcry.


thikhead 67M
3346 posts
2/12/2020 5:01 pm

IN RESPONSE TO HEATHEN -

[me] - and now even the DOJ is cowering before him regarding the stone case....

[heathen] - No they're not. Maybe the sentence will be commuted, because 9 years is extreme.

FACT - maximum sentence for the crimes he was committed of could have been 50 years.

in your honest opinion
(as if you could have one - although i still believe maybe someday you could),

do you think a black man doing the same for a democrat would have only gotten 5 - 7?

AND have trump very publicly decry that?

and make no mistake, based on his recent actions,
tweeted disapproval DOES carry an implicit threat,
as shown by how quickly the DOJ jumped in fear

"well only get through this if we work together. if we dont, none of us will"


thikhead 67M
3346 posts
2/12/2020 4:45 pm

IN RESPONSE TO HEATHEN -

[me] quibbling about words, but his actions tell the truth -

[heathen] .... Yes, we are quibbling about words. "Words" is how we communicate. There are people who want to take away what words we can use , and when and where we can speak certain words. ..... But back to the issue at hand....We are quibbling about words.... "Head on a pike" was Schiff's words. Like he made up words in the transcript.

boy, you are so good about quotes but not at understanding them.
YES, back to the issue at hand (as you say) -

1) schiff quoted a CBS news report quoting a "trump confidant".
while youre hung up on the exact words, youre totally ignoring
that trumps word "liar", which youre venomously repeating here,
was WRONG, since,
AGAIN, many senators HAVE admitted what trump did WAS wrong,
so saying trump did what he did was NOT lying.

and while you can say its his prerogative to fire anybody he wants, is it really the right thing to do? or is it he knows that if the same charges, AND new appropriate ones on in fractions committed since, are brought up again, he might not be as lucky again?

2) and yes, words ARE how we communicate, well said,
but also how we HURT, which trump is a master of -
like some of trumps "greatest shits" -
crazy, nut job, stupid, unstable, nasty, fake, overrated, the list is endless.

is that how you grew up thinking presidents should talk?
is that how you want your kids to learn to talk?

take the challenge, google "fack-checking the sotu".
id love to interact with you when the thoughts in your head are yours
and not just regurtitation of big brothers propaganda.

youre obviously intelligent, shown by how you can quote facts.
although most of them inaccurate, and repeat twisted words.
id love to hear from you once youre thinking for yourself for a change.

"well only get through this if we work together. if we dont, none of us will"


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
2/12/2020 4:44 pm

    Quoting thikhead:
    from "the hill news service" -

    Some Republican senators said on Wednesday that President Trump shouldn't weigh in on pending sentences after he publicly criticized an initial recommendation from the Department of Justice (DOJ) in the case of Roger Stone.

    GOP senators say Trump shouldn't weigh in on pending sentences
    The comments come as senators are facing an onslaught of questions over DOJ's decision to lower its sentencing recommendation for Stone, a Trump associate, overriding front-line prosecutors.

    "I don't like this chain of events where you have a ... proceeding, a sentencing, a recommended sentence, the president weighs in and all of the sudden Justice comes back, says 'change the deal.' I think most people would look at that and say 'hmm, that just doesn't look right.' And I think they're right," Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) told reporters.

    Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) told reporters that Trump "should not have gotten involved."

    Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said he didn't think Trump was trying to "bully" the judge who will ultimately decide Stone's sentence. But, he added, he didn't think the president should be publicly weighing on pending sentences either.
    "I don't think he should be commenting on cases in the system, I don't think that's appropriate," Graham told reporters.
Basically Senators only giving their opinion.

The President of the United States is well entitled to criticize or overturn, or even just weigh in on the sentencing.

But this morning President Trump said he wasn't going to get involved, even though he is entitled, as President, to do so.


thikhead 67M
3346 posts
2/12/2020 4:07 pm

from "the hill news service" -

Some Republican senators said on Wednesday that President Trump shouldn't weigh in on pending sentences after he publicly criticized an initial recommendation from the Department of Justice (DOJ) in the case of Roger Stone.

GOP senators say Trump shouldn't weigh in on pending sentences
The comments come as senators are facing an onslaught of questions over DOJ's decision to lower its sentencing recommendation for Stone, a Trump associate, overriding front-line prosecutors.

"I don't like this chain of events where you have a ... proceeding, a sentencing, a recommended sentence, the president weighs in and all of the sudden Justice comes back, says 'change the deal.' I think most people would look at that and say 'hmm, that just doesn't look right.' And I think they're right," Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) told reporters.

Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) told reporters that Trump "should not have gotten involved."

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said he didn't think Trump was trying to "bully" the judge who will ultimately decide Stone's sentence. But, he added, he didn't think the president should be publicly weighing on pending sentences either.
"I don't think he should be commenting on cases in the system, I don't think that's appropriate," Graham told reporters.

"well only get through this if we work together. if we dont, none of us will"


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
2/12/2020 3:46 pm

    Quoting thikhead:
    quibbling about words, but his actions tell the truth -

    of course the rep senators denied it, or theyd be offering their heads up as well.

    do they fear his wrath?

    you cant deny, he wasted no time started rolling heads.

    and now even the DOJ is cowering before him regarding the stone case.

    he has truly become a distator
quibbling about words, but his actions tell the truth - .... Yes, we are quibbling about words. "Words" is how we communicate. There are people who want to take away what words we can use , and when and where we can speak certain words. ..... But back to the issue at hand....We are quibbling about words.... "Head on a pike" was Schiff's words. Like he made up words in the transcript.

Adam Schiff is a liar. He needs to be replaced, along with Speaker of the House.

you cant deny, he wasted no time started rolling heads..... He can do that. People get fired within any Administration...every President before him has made changes within his Administration.. especially if the President doesn't trust someone to have his back. ....AND the President is well within his rights to make changes and replacements.

and now even the DOJ is cowering before him regarding the stone case.... No they're not. Maybe the sentence will be commuted, because 9 years is extreme.

he has truly become a distator ... Dictator? ... No... He is not being a dictator. He's being a really good President for this country. He did not take the Office by force, he is not going to extend his stay 8 or more years.....just 4 MORE YEARS...and that's by the vote of the people, and the Electoral College [which we need for the vote of the people in smaller populated states].. Good thing, too!

President Trump is draining swamp....as he promised. ....also a good thing.


thikhead 67M
3346 posts
2/12/2020 3:06 pm

    Quoting Heathen_G:
    President Trump never tweeted anything about placing heads on pikes. Schiff made the comment.... just another Schiff shim sham lie in Congress.

    [----“CBS News reported last night that a Trump confidant said that key senators were warned, ‘Vote against the president and your head will be on a pike,’” Schiff, the lead House impeachment manager, told the Senate on Jan. 24. “I don’t know if that’s true,” cautioned Schiff, who repeated the allegation for emphasis. -----]

    "A Trump confidant tells CBS News that Republican senators have been warned: Vote against the president and your head will be on a pike.” After Republican senators denied receiving any such medieval gangster warnings, Schiff was asked about his invocation of the story: “Look, there are going to be efforts to distract from the facts, there are going to be attacks on the managers,” said Schiff. ...

    Nobody actually said that.
quibbling about words, but his actions tell the truth -

of course the rep senators denied it, or theyd be offering their heads up as well.

do they fear his wrath?

you cant deny, he wasted no time started rolling heads.

and now even the DOJ is cowering before him regarding the stone case.

he has truly become a distator

"well only get through this if we work together. if we dont, none of us will"


thikhead 67M
3346 posts
2/12/2020 3:00 pm

    Quoting Heathen_G:
    To tear up an official document is unlawful. A crime.

    U.S. Code prohibits the destruction of Government records.

    "18 U.S. Code § 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

    (a)Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. "
but, for the THIRD TIME,

it was NOT an official document, but a COPY, one of hundreds,

making her free to do with it as she chose.

"well only get through this if we work together. if we dont, none of us will"


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
2/12/2020 2:32 pm

To tear up an official document is unlawful. A crime.

U.S. Code prohibits the destruction of Government records.

"18 U.S. Code § 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

(a)Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. "


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
2/12/2020 2:19 pm

President Trump never tweeted anything about placing heads on pikes. Schiff made the comment.... just another Schiff shim sham lie in Congress.

[----“CBS News reported last night that a Trump confidant said that key senators were warned, ‘Vote against the president and your head will be on a pike,’” Schiff, the lead House impeachment manager, told the Senate on Jan. 24. “I don’t know if that’s true,” cautioned Schiff, who repeated the allegation for emphasis. -----]

"A Trump confidant tells CBS News that Republican senators have been warned: Vote against the president and your head will be on a pike.” After Republican senators denied receiving any such medieval gangster warnings, Schiff was asked about his invocation of the story: “Look, there are going to be efforts to distract from the facts, there are going to be attacks on the managers,” said Schiff. ...

Nobody actually said that.


thikhead 67M
3346 posts
2/12/2020 10:10 am

IN RESPONSE TO HEATHEN -

youre STILL missing the points, or youre just plain ignoring them -

1) [me] then why has a FEDERAL COURT convicted stone, among others?
[heathen] They broke some laws.
[FACT] - YES! stone and his cronies were convicted by a federal court of breaking the law DOING TRUMPS DIRTY WORK (PERJURY AND WITNESS-TAMPERING) and now "heads-on-a-pike" trump tweets his disapproval, and the scared-silly dept of (in)justice wants to challenge the sentence, but notice they are not appealing the VERDICT in higher court

2) [me] several senators have now admitted what trump did was wrong. ....
[heathen]"Wrong" is not an "Impeachable offense"... These "Senators" meant they would have done it differently.
[FACT] youre changing the subject, my point was about trump incorrectly calling testifiers "liars". ok, so the rep senators argue its not impeachable, but many DO admit what did trump WAS wrong. SO PERSECUTING AND FIRING THOSE WHO TESTIFIED WHAT HE DID WAS ALSO WRONG!


3) [me] if youre referring to her tearing up HER COPY of trumps speech, she most certainly did not. it was hers to do with as she pleased.
[heathen].... No.. To tear up an official document is a crime.
[FACT] - FOR THE SECOND TIME, it was NOT an "official" document, it was HER COPY (one of hundreds, in fact) to do with as she pleased.

you certainly are articulate, i applaud you for that.

i just wish you could open up to the reality
that not everything big brother tells you is correct,
in fact, very little of it is.
his big advantage is the power of childish incessant repetition.
hearing something a thousand times doesnt make it true
if it wasnt true the first time.
youre too smart to fall for that.

did you ever step up and accept the challenge
of googling "fact-checking the sotu" yet?

PLEASE DO, i would enjoy exchanging thoughts with you
after you begin to see through the exaggerations, word-twisting and lies
and see how base-less, not just class-less,
his unending parade of childish insults and threats are.

you wouldnt work for a boss like that, would you?
so why . . . ?

"well only get through this if we work together. if we dont, none of us will"


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
2/12/2020 3:04 am

    Quoting thikhead:
    QOUTING HEATHEN -

    [him] - Robert Mueller's Russia Russia Russia investigation was found to be a hoax.

    TRUTH - then why has a FEDERAL COURT convicted stone, among others?

    [him] - Fact: Adam Schiff lied to Congress.

    TRUTH - several senators have now admitted what trump did was wrong. whether its convictable or not is one issue, but that fact that it happened is just that - a REAL FACT. so saying so does not make anyone a liar.

    [him] - Fact: Pelosi committed a felony crime.

    TRUTH - if youre referring to her tearing up HER COPY of trumps speech, she most certainly did not. it was her to do with as she pleased.

    and NO, she did NOT do it as the returning serviceman and surviving tuskegee airman were being honored,

    and NO, she did not do it as the philly mom and daughter were given a voucher to attend a "better" school, even though the one she attends now, MaST charter, is one of the 325 best-ranked schools in the nation (im from philly area, so i know this for sure),

    and NO, she didnt even do it while that racist, anti-women, homo-phobic rush limbaugh was being honored.

    she did it at the END of his charade of mis-information, exaggerations and flat-out lies. google "fact-checking sotu" if you want some REAL facts, and not to just blindly believe what your orange talking head tells you

    do you dare open your eyes?
    and get your head out of "big brothers" ass?
[Laughing at thikhead]

- then why has a FEDERAL COURT convicted stone, among others? ... They broke some laws.

several senators have now admitted what trump did was wrong. .... "Wrong" is not an "Impeachable offense"... These "Senators" meant they would have done it differently.

- if youre referring to her tearing up HER COPY of trumps speech, she most certainly did not. it was her to do with as she pleased. .... No.. To tear up an official document is a crime.


thikhead 67M
3346 posts
2/10/2020 8:43 pm

QOUTING HEATHEN -

[him] - Robert Mueller's Russia Russia Russia investigation was found to be a hoax.

TRUTH - then why has a FEDERAL COURT convicted stone, among others?

[him] - Fact: Adam Schiff lied to Congress.

TRUTH - several senators have now admitted what trump did was wrong. whether its convictable or not is one issue, but that fact that it happened is just that - a REAL FACT. so saying so does not make anyone a liar.

[him] - Fact: Pelosi committed a felony crime.

TRUTH - if youre referring to her tearing up HER COPY of trumps speech, she most certainly did not. it was her to do with as she pleased.

and NO, she did NOT do it as the returning serviceman and surviving tuskegee airman were being honored,

and NO, she did not do it as the philly mom and daughter were given a voucher to attend a "better" school, even though the one she attends now, MaST charter, is one of the 325 best-ranked schools in the nation (im from philly area, so i know this for sure),

and NO, she didnt even do it while that racist, anti-women, homo-phobic rush limbaugh was being honored.

she did it at the END of his charade of mis-information, exaggerations and flat-out lies. google "fact-checking sotu" if you want some REAL facts, and not to just blindly believe what your orange talking head tells you

do you dare open your eyes?
and get your head out of "big brothers" ass?

"well only get through this if we work together. if we dont, none of us will"


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
2/10/2020 7:06 pm

Robert Mueller's Russia Russia Russia investigation was found to be a hoax.

Fact: Adam Schiff lied to Congress. Fact: Pelosi committed a felony crime.

Carter Page will be suing Democratic National Committee and law firm for defamation. "The defendants "used false information, misrepresentations and other misconduct to direct the power of the international intelligence apparatus and the media industry against a private individual, Plaintiff Carter Page, to further their political agenda," the suit says."


thikhead 67M
3346 posts
2/10/2020 6:18 pm

while chancellor trump is firing those who didnt work with him,
heres whats happening with another one who did work with him,

courtesy of ASSOCIATED PRESS (AP) -

WASHINGTON (AP) — Federal prosecutors are asking a judge to sentence President Donald Trump's confidant Roger Stone to serve between 7 and 9 years in prison after his conviction on witness tampering and obstruction charges.

Stone, who is scheduled to be sentenced next week, was convicted in November of a seven-count indictment that accused him of lying to Congress, tampering with a witness and obstructing the House investigation into whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia to tip the 2016 election.
He was the sixth Trump aide or adviser to be convicted of charges brought as part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation.


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